Article 50

I am certainly NOT hoping to find Wonderland at the end! Humpty Dumpty, Cheshire cats, Mad hatters

Sounds about right!

The trouble is, of course, that loads of those who voted Leave will never find their way out of the hole. That's a good job really, because they aren't half going to be angry when they find out they've been conned.

They'll just perish in their holes.

Malthusian theory will get you, Mair. You know what? Nobody will care.

Another pointless spiteful post from you Dap.

So much hate!

Thought you'd gone to bed daphnedill

Hmmm perhaps a last riled up parting shot eh from dd
Sleep tight .

Varian I have to agree with Glam in that you are forever quoting percentages and trotting out that 37% old chestnut.
It's now over and 52% voted to Leave!

1763000 + signatures now. Nowhere near that many for the article 50, although, I agree, many of those who signed article 50 will want Trump to not be allowed to meet the queen.
I don't understand why Farage wanted to know that.

I presume some people on here have never signed a government petition, and don't know that you can't sign it twice. If you forget and try again it reminds you that you have already done it.

By the way, did anyone see any photos at all of Farage being at Trump's inauguration? I can't remember seeing him there at all, and I'm sure if he had been we would have seen the photos.

Just thought I'd pop back in to add I don't think at this stage it should matter now who voted remain/leave, we will all have to live with the consequences of Brexit. Surely it's better to approach it positively than almost wishing/hoping it all goes wrong. Agree to disagree and move on.

I don't think people are wishing or hoping it goes wrong Glamourousgray, what would the point be in that? I think what many want is a chance for it to go right. Moving on is not going to happen - it never does. The referendum went in one particular way on one particular day and the status quo moved from us being in the EU to us being in a position where a referendum had advised the government to come out. And then the next day came as it always, always does.

I presume some people on here have never signed a government petition, and don't know that you can't sign it twice. If you forget and try again it reminds you that you have already done it.

You can with a new name and email address. I'd have thought a campaigner such as yourself would be aware of that, even if your own moral principles restrain you from such corruption.

Glamorousgray

Well said. The Bremainers would be more likely to win some concessions if they tried to be constructive not confrontational.

May was hardly a hard core Brexiter but she must be increasingly peed off with Bremoaners doing everything they can to sabotage her and make her life difficult, including the latest Trump nonsense.

I am feeling extremely relaxed about the bill.

The important stuff is to come and what Brexit Britain will look like will be debated in Parliament over the next 2 years and probably beyond.

I am reasonably confident that the moderates will far outweigh and out vote the extremists in Parliament - so we won't have a Trump style attitude to things like, continuous trade with the EU, and immigration. There will be adjustments to both, but not to the extent that it will effect our economy nor societal needs. No point in shooting ourselves in the foot!!
Britain will continue to be the tolerant, mature and open society we have all grown up with.
To ensure that there is a clear majority in both the Commons and the Lords.

I think that the hard right argument witnessed here on GN which is calling for and end to immigration and a call to reject refugees is we must remember very much in the minority in the country. And bears no relationship to the majority of people's attitude.

Yes many are calling for a restriction on immigration, and this will happen, yes people are concerned that their living standards do not fall, and I am clear that this is primarily in the minds of MPs .

So we can ignore those whose divisive rhetoric threatens the stability of our country, and be content that good moderate debate we Daily witness in Parliament will give us what we all want.

There is no hard right arguement here on GN to end immigration.

It's good that you're extremely relaxed about the bill whitewave, you did come across as being anything but recently! Let's hope those fair and cautious MPs feel the same way...

'Hard right argument here on GN'? Must have missed that...

I wish people would just start supporting Britain! The Referendum is OVER. The vote was to come OUT of the EU (thank goodness) and now we should just accept it and start working together to make this country well again. We need to stop all the bickering and feet stamping and start being positive for our country's future.

Those who cannot or will not accept the decision should up-sticks and move elsewhere. There is still time, you have two years to plan and pack before the border is secured again.

Just to be clear....as the politicians say. No-one is planning to send all immigrants back to where they came from. No-one is trying to stop immigration to Britain altogether. What we are looking for is a controlled way of taking in only those who offer their skills to this country, not a stampede of all those who just want to live off the benefits this country provides. Free medical care being one. Anyone read about the Nigerian woman who was turned away from America so jumped on an airplane to Britain and promptly gave birth to quadtruplets? That has cost the NHS £50,000! How many nurses would that have helped to train?

Yes, counselling or even better ,hypnotherapy may be needed ' look into my eyes, don't look over there, look at me, you are feeling sleepy, now.....repeat after me
the referendum is over and again please, and again, right when I count to three and snap my fingers you will wake up!

Personally once the whole thing is over I think immigration and 'control' will be nothing to the problems which will gradually come to the fore. There will also need to be a lot of education about the laws which the Govt wish to repeal and if they are re-elected at the next GE will have the mandate to do.
I read an interesting piece in the Huffington Post today written by a historian about how seemingly insignificant things become the trigger for much bigger events. One of the starting points he used with the shooting of Ferdinand in Sarejevo ultimately being the cause of WW1. He was putting the case how the three separate events of Trump Brexit and Putin being in power can gradually trigger events.

Of course, but we have no control over random events. Hindsight for anything would be a great thing.

The regulation and monitoring of the atomic industry is just one small (but important) role which is organised at an EU level. This means that countries are not solely in charge of monitoring their own atomic power stations.

I support Britain Yorkshiregel! For what it's worth, I love this country and I" know that longterm we can do well outside the EU. I'm afraid that view does make me rather unpopular, what with that and being a Tory! No hope really!!

Was it this article Welshwife?

www.huffingtonpost.com/tobias-stone/history-tells-us-what-will-brexit-trump_b_11179774.html

I agree with it.

Trump's win and Brexit weren't random events. They were part of a trend.

The historian Ian Kershaw wrote,

“The road to Auschwitz was built by hate, but paved with indifference.”

We can, at the very least, refuse to be indifferent.

Yes it was DD I tried for ages to do a link and failed completely.