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Article 50

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Mair Thu 26-Jan-17 14:36:09

Well its been announced that Jeremy Corbyn is applying a three line whip to his MPs to make them support the triggering of article 50.

I admire Jeremy for this, it's an act of leadership, and it could save Labours bacon in the many Northern Brexit seats that they hold, so in that sense I am not entirely pleased because it will weaken UKIPs chances. It will also weaken Paul Nuttalls chances in Stoke.

What do the Bremain Labour supporters on GN feel about this?

Ana Fri 27-Jan-17 20:06:50

Don't be silly. A 'threat' from one lone Gransnetter? hmm

stillaliveandkicking Fri 27-Jan-17 20:08:59

Threat?

whitewave Fri 27-Jan-17 20:10:22

Don't be silly aak Article 50 will be activated.

Presumably what you are talking about is the shape of the UK after Brexit. Now that certainly will be challenged. Don't forget Parliament is sovereign.

Jalima Fri 27-Jan-17 20:10:50

saak all the Brexiteers could march just as everyone did when Trump was inaugurated, block the streets, get in the way of people trying to get to important appointments, stopping old ladies going about their lawful business etc etc

Will the Americans march as well?

Watch this space

rosesarered Fri 27-Jan-17 20:11:22

Let us all sing.....you know how it goes 'Let it go, let it go!'The referendum result never bothered me anyway, tra la!'

durhamjen Fri 27-Jan-17 20:11:42

politicalscrapbook.net/2017/01/two-leading-brexiters-went-to-berlin-to-woo-german-businesses-over-brexit-it-didnt-go-well/

I presume these two went as part of Brexit and not of their own volition.
May had better rein them in if she wants the UK to get a good deal.

stillaliveandkicking Fri 27-Jan-17 20:11:59

have to say i chuckled there Ana. bayonets to the fore.

rosesarered Fri 27-Jan-17 20:13:07

Can we have Let It Go placards as well to wave Jalima grin

whitewave Fri 27-Jan-17 20:14:16

dj Paterson doesn't seem to be the brightest spark in the box. Never fails to underwhelm.

stillaliveandkicking Fri 27-Jan-17 20:15:02

Scratching the words in with my bayonet right now grin

Jalima Fri 27-Jan-17 20:16:37

Do we have to dress up in Elsa costumes?

I don't think the DGD's costumes will fit me

stillaliveandkicking Fri 27-Jan-17 20:17:39

wear what you like Jalima, we live in a democracy after all.

rosesarered Fri 27-Jan-17 20:19:46

Not according to some grin at least wear an Anna or Elsa wig though.

Jalima Fri 27-Jan-17 20:20:52

I could get arrested
Although anything goes these days.

Anyway, I voted Remain so I may not march grin

But - Que Sera Sera is my song and my mantra.
Otherwise I end up with very high blood pressure.

stillaliveandkicking Fri 27-Jan-17 20:25:48

Oh come on whitewave, silly is as silly does and my message was quite clear, not about post Brexit now was it.

durhamjen Fri 27-Jan-17 20:26:32

Some not very bright sparks on here, either, whitewave.

politicalscrapbook.net/2017/01/why-the-snp-leaders-question-at-pmqs-today-was-key-to-britains-future/

This is more important than Paterson. Angus Robertson linking EU and US, very cleverly. May didn't answer. Pleased I'm a vegetarian.

stillaliveandkicking Fri 27-Jan-17 20:33:16

Some armchair politicians too so it seems (yawn).

Jalima Fri 27-Jan-17 20:36:24

Some not very bright sparks on here, either, whitewave.
and some very humourless posters

Leave you to it.

Mair Fri 27-Jan-17 20:41:18

DJ said
They do, on the terms that exist now.
However, if the UK is allowed to have free trade without free movement of people, why shouldn't the other countries object?

Why should they?
They want freedom of movement and 'ever closer union', do they not? Doesn't immigration bring them 'enormous benefits'?

If the answer is no, then who does want it and why enforce it against the will of the people?

DJ then said (rudely):
"Grow up, Mair, and start thinking"

The irony of that remark, coming from someone whose politics has set in the mould it was formed in at the age of, well, maybe fifteen, will not escape more thoughtful readers.hmm

varian Fri 27-Jan-17 20:48:36

Owen Paterson, speaking for the Leave campaign, told us all before the referendum "only a madman would actually want to leave the (single) market."

Not very bright to think he could get away with that was he!

durhamjen Fri 27-Jan-17 20:50:10

When I was fifteen, I didn't know anything about politics.

This is interesting. Labour Leave is trying to get a Ukip vote in Stoke, because obviously, they want us to leave.
Labour Leave is funded by Tory donors.
politicalscrapbook.net/2017/01/labour-leave-try-and-boost-ukips-chances-in-stoke-with-a-voodoo-poll/

Mair Fri 27-Jan-17 20:51:12

Not very bright to think he could get away with that was he!

Indeed not someone in whose judgement it would be wise to place your trust!

Jalima Fri 27-Jan-17 20:52:24

Wrong choice of Labour candidate for Stoke if the constituency is so much in favour of Leave.

varian Fri 27-Jan-17 20:54:58

I never placed my trust in anyone in the Leave campaign. They told a pack of lies, but sadly some did.

durhamjen Sat 28-Jan-17 00:21:22

Why are UKIP allowed to stand for office?
A majority of their members think torture is acceptable.

politicalscrapbook.net/2017/01/only-a-majority-of-ukip-voters-believe-that-torture-works-according-to-survey/