Could this be the start of a nasty period in Britain as Brexit starts to hit?

I think Irene might have a problem convincing the home office that she has a 'right to family life' when she stayed in Singapore from 1992- 2003 on her own without her children or husband.

Well, that's what I mean !!

That wouldn't have been right either!
I thought the link was quite nasty, he may have stated the facts (or not) but he sounds as if he is very biased against Irene.

Perhaps the sis-il was wrong to set up the crowdfunding page instead of just a petition but she is obviously very upset and thought they would need cash to employ solicitors to fight their case.
They may have made money from a property sale but may need that to fund their living expenses if the husband is ill and she is his carer. Solicitors would soon empty that pot of cash.

I don't generally donate to any crowdfunding but I would support her appeal to return to the UK.

MaizieD I'm not in favour of that practice, but if it's legal, so be it.

It isn't legal. There are lots of people who have been sent back home because they have been brought over here to live with children, mainly pensioners.
It's not legal to bring people over here and use the NHS.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/185283

A petition to allow what you think happens already, petra.

Here is a link to a YouGov poll about Irene Clennell:

yougov.co.uk/news/2017/03/01/deporting-irene-clennell-was-wrong-say-nearly-two-/

Now, I know that polls have not proved to be that reliable of late but according to this one, two-thirds of Britons think that deporting Irene Clennell was wrong.
That is a much bigger majority than voted Brexit which means that somehow the Government is misreading what the public means when they say that immigration should be limited.

The facts are stated clearly and rationally (unlike that other link which made me quite angry) and give the reasons why she has not spent the whole 30 years of marriage in the UK.

Is Amber Rudd listening?

Even 50% of those who say they voted UKIP do not support her deportation and only 31% supported it.

So surely that shows the Government are getting it badly wrong?

A lot of the time when she was in Singapore it was because she had applied for residency and been refused. This is not the first time she has been sent back there, just the first time she has had nowhere to stay when sent back.

This just proves that the government cannot be trusted with EU citizens living here. They will do what is expedient at the time, whoever it harms.
Oh, and believe it or not, I admit to my opinions being subjective. Aren't we all supposed to care for our families wherever they were born, not just if they were all born in Britain?

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/02/lords-brexit-expos-govenrmen-protect-eu-citizens

Excellent article by Polly Toynbee.

" The Lords debate exposed the prime minister’s contradictory and deceitful arguments against protecting EU citizens living here. If, on this most popular and painfully human question, she will give no inch, that’s a terrible augury for how she intends to conduct these negotiations, opening with a war cry to all 27 countries: we hold your people hostage."

Fed up with the "we're crowded" line. Try a little flight across the British Isles. Quite tricky to spot a town at all. Try flying from Luton to Waterford for instance. You don't fly over any towns and cities, all the way to the Welsh coast.
It't not the Uk that is overcrowded. It's successive governments that have not been building enough housing.
And, of course, London is a victim of it's own success. But it would not function for at all if all the immigrants and the offspring of immigrants downed tools together and went for a chat in the park.

Irene Clennell:
2003- 2005 – Lives in Britain and makes numerous applications for leave to remain, all of which are rejected
2007 – Refused permission to enter the UK and is turned back from a UK airport

Oh dear, not just the bad Tories then.

Why? Rules is rules.

Did anyone say it's just Tories?
However, she has been told that if her next appeal doesn't work, she can't apply again for another ten years?

Did anyone say it's just Tories?
Well, yes, it has been assumed throughout the thread.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/brexit-latest-eu-national-right-to-live-uk-theresa-may-panic-a7602191.html

The rules of residence were changed on 1st February.

All the more reason not to trust the government.

www.freemovement.org.uk/briefing-legal-status-eu-citizens-uk/

Another sign of how nasty Britain is becoming.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/mar/03/man-who-saved-two-children-from-house-fire-to-be-deported-from-uk

Oh dear. Zimbabwe is a dangerous place for anyone who opposes the government in any way.

They don't seem concerned, though, do they?

This is interesting. I read about it last week, but thought nothing would come of it.

www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/mar/04/cambridge-analytics-data-brexit-trump

For those who think leaving the EU will not make any difference to travel visas. If we want control of our borders, so will the EU.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/europe-visa-free-travel-americans-european-parliament-vote-a7609406.html

Is this a warning to the UK?

I think the Tories position is utterly bizarre.

Talk about mixed messages.

They say "oh don't worry, any EU now residing in the U.K. Will be able to stay"

Although we know that is a lie as the Home Office is rejecting thousands of claims.

They then say " we cannot guarantee anything as we must use everything at our disposal as a bargaining chip"

They don't have the guts to say this includes the EU citizens , but everyone knows that is what it means.

Irish border problem looking serious.

The man who runs Cambridge Analytica.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/04/nigel-oakes-cambridge-analytica-what-role-brexit-trump

It's going to take forever to process all these applications.

"More than 135,000 EU nationals have applied to live in Britain permanently in just six months, it has been revealed – ahead of a Commons showdown next week.

The Home Office is being inundated with bids for residency, as Theresa May continues to fight pressure to guarantee EU citizens can remain in the country after Brexit.

Applicants are plunged into what has been called a “nightmare” bureaucratic process of filling in a 85-page form at a cost of £65. The guidance notes alone run to 18 pages."

They are going to have to stop it and be sensible about letting EU residents stay. Even Gove says so!

They need to ditch the 85 page form and get it down to about 3. That would speed things up.
Not hard to work out, is it. Save them a fortune in temps.

Just as long as they do not continue to charge £65 for it as well.
It's ridiculous expecting everyone to have proof of every time they have been abroad over the time they have lived in the UK. I am sure my daughters in law do not.

Quite. Specially if you come from the EU - some people are popping back and fore all the time.
However that charge is very, very modest compared to the cost of applying for UK citizenship (nearly £2k by the time they have done all the exams etc)