Open Britain - Hard Brexit

I think it does need saying that there are many people who voted leave who are not against immigration and who have no truck with Farage and his grim mob.

By the way, my comment about the 1970s which seems to have set people off onto an anti-Labour spin, was actually made in response to a posting from Marieeliz who expressed her belief of how wonderful life in the UK was before we joined the EU. I just thought I'd dissipate her rosy glow a little.

One of the Leave Campaigns ( Boris') said the money saved from not paying our EU contribution could be spent on the NHS because the cash saving would be ours to decide what to do with it. No one ever said it all would go to the NHS and that money certainly isn't ours to do with as we please now.
If you remember, Scotland had their first Independence Referendum before Brexit was even a possibility so you will have to blame Sturgeon for wanted a second referendum to try and break up the Union at her second attempt.
Currencies fluctuate, the pound will bounce back. If prices of foreign goods rise then don't buy them. No one forces you to buy marmite etc. People should buy British anyway to support our country.
Why people want to live in a country that is shackled to a corrupt and failing organisation like the EU which controls all decisions made which effect our everyday lives is beyond my understanding

Could you give us some examples quizqueen of 'all the decisions which affect our everyday lives'?

I don't see any hankering after days of Empire, either here or anywhere else.Just people who think we will do better out of the EU, and are relieved that we will no longer have to take unlimited immigration.An interesting thought: in the not so distant past, people accepted the results of referendums and General Elections, now people feel personally that they have been snubbed/thwarted and generally behave like spolit children that they didn't get their way.So, they try and take it out on the ones who did get their way, a sort of entitlement thing.

Quizqueen does not have to 'give examples' of anything, we are not in the schoolroom.

Yes, could we have some examples of the terrible regulations that have been imposed upon UK by EU? Just what are we going to take back control of? And just to correct those whose memories are failing regarding the slogan on the side of the bus; Pritti Patel, on BBC Morning News, PLEDGED to spend the £350m on the NHS. She was asked by the interviewer on whose authority she made this pledge seeing as she wasn't even in the Treasury. So, she was a liar, and one of many, and on both sides. Bloody George Osborne, with is threats of doom and gloom budgets did a lot of harm to the Remain campaign, but as I said previously, he was with Cameron in the arrogant squad who wouldn't even countenance the possibility of the electorate voting to leave. So, lets hear some examples of the regulations that we will be able to throw off, and thus improve our lives?

But this was one of the main reasons why a lot of people voted for Brexit, but nobody has actually told me what these EU decisions are. I don't think it unreasonable to ask for a couple of examples from someone who's just said that this what the EU does. Or am I just supposed to accept this at face value?

How on earth can you have missed the hankering for the past?

PS.I don't have to give examples, but it's difficult to miss them!

PPS. No, it's not a schoolroom, but supporting an argument is a useful technique in debate.

How can you possibly thing bendy bananas (or was it straight bananas?) don't matter, Gill?

Well, I did wonder if the bendy bananas would make an appearance [g]rin

Whoops

typo alert: 'think' not 'thing'.

Yes, I was about to mention the UK being forced to have straight bananas (although they're noticeable by their absence in the shops) and people being thrown into jail for refusing to convert to kilos...

Yes, maybe bendy bananas flags should replace the Union Jack when the UK is broken up

Badenkate, Let's put it this way-I can't give you an example of a decision the EU makes which does NOT effect our daily lives. That's because every law and regulation made is made by the EU. Would you let your next door neighbour tell you how to live your life and then pay them £350 million (and increasing) a day to do so.

Debate?! No, just another opportunity for 'passionate Remainers' to have yet another go at anyone who had the temerity to vote Leave.
It's done, we're leaving and all will have to get used to it.

And we're not allowed to sell misshapen veg either, apparently, although all the supermarkets seem to be flouting this 'law'!

Exactly Quizqueen but anyone who voted Leave does not have to spell out their reasons on a forum to complete strangers, no matter how demanding those posters are.The great repeal bill will be looking at making changes in all sorts of areas that EU law had a hand in.

Haha! So you do believe that the UK is spending £350,000 on the EU.

Oh dear!

Oh dear Quizqueen even Boris Johnson didn't say every law and legislation was made in the EU! It's generally agreed that the figure lies somewhere between 13% and 60% depending on how you define 'laws' and considering that some of the legislation passed doesn't apply to the UK. If you would like to read up on it a little more then this is a useful piece of neutral reporting:

fullfact.org/europe/uk-law-what-proportion-influenced-eu/

We have plenty of our own laws. We have an input into EU laws. The point is which ones people would want to repeal.

The 'Great Repeal Bill' isn't about looking at changes - it's about transferring EU law to the UK statute book. I'm not sure how Scotland, with its separate legal system, will do this.

By the way, I hope people realise that the price of bananas (bendy and straight) is likely to increase after the UK has left the EU. Bananas are a hobby of mine and they'remuch more interesting than people think. At the moment, banana exporters benefit from an agreement with Germany to treat bananas favourably for tax purposes. Once the bananas are in an EU country (or the paperwork shows that they are) they can be exported tariff-free to other EU countries. Another thing on the list for the UK's Brexit negotiators will be to negotiate tariffs with banana-exporting countries.

I'm fascinated dd. How have you become interested in bananas?

Bananas are a hobby of yours, daphnedill? Does that mean you grow your own?

All the things going wrong here has been on the EU watch. We pay to trade and our production is rationed across Europe. It's going to cost us more and more with bail outs. How can you trust the EU parliament when they move every month at great expense to all the hard working Europeans. It's lack of respect. Our politicians who want us to stay are thinking of their jobs and pensions. Not ours. There are no jobs by the way. The last job I applied for last month had over a 100 applicants. Which we have to compete with the whole of Europe for. There is ageism. I am happy to do any job. We don't need more youngsters to do them.

We also have a business that sells to the whole world. The EU doesn't come into it.

Lazy governments have brought in large companies to pay our young minimum wage. We have not spent enough on education and training. We have to not hide behind the EU and sort ourselves out. We are becoming a low paid second class economy. The EU don't care, they care about themselves. As we get older we see the overcrowding. We can't even feed ourselves because of restrictions and rationing.

We have enough food in the country to feed the population for a week. Something had to be done to change the tide. We have become a nanny state and the government won't be happy until they take our salaries and give a little back. Everything they do when we leave will be transparent. No hiding.

The money men love uncertainty with money. So they can gamble with it. It's outrageous that money can be use like this. We can't just sit back for our children's sake. We are trillions in debt in the EU. What do the remainders think they are giving us. Before we worked in other countries. We still need a passport for holidays. They are also heading for a federal Europe. Another layer of tax. Do you want to be homogenised? Also we all voted individually I didn't know which way the vote would go. Why blame leavers. Rant over. We have good people in this country by the way.