Open Britain - Hard Brexit

Except, of course, that some people are starving, those who use foodbanks. If food becomes more expensive, fewer people will be in the position to give food to foodbanks.
Swings and roundabouts.

This is an interesting take on the SNP's view of the Brexit talks.

jackofkent.com/2017/03/brexit-diary-one-hurdle-surmounted-but-another-gets-more-awkward/

Is that an actual fact dd or merely an opinion?

No, we won't starve Ana. We'll just pay more for our food, which means inflation and less money to spend on other items.

Well perhaps after Brexit the UK will have to rethink its food production and supply policies, daphnedill. Maybe we've become too reliant on an easy supply from EU countries and should be growing more of our own.

Inflation

Let's wait and see dd

Time we did more for ourselves in various areas, produced more, but just because we are leaving the EU doesn't mean that we cease to import food....why on earth should it?

I voted to remain but a democratic vote selected leave. I accept this as the will of the people, The majority was narrow but that's how democracy works. We should be proud and grateful to live in a country where democracy in paramount even if we are occasionally disappointed in the result.

Fitzy

I'm late back to this thread as I'e been doing nice things with GS all afternoon; but this:

Mazie you are just reinforcing the "dig your heels in" attitude of the two negotiating positions.

I suggest you reread what I said. Which was basically can anyone not see the irony of leaving the EU so as to limit EU immigrants while the price of trade deals with non EU countries post Brexit is likely to be increased immigration from them, instead?

But not unlimited or uncontrolled immigration, a big difference.

I hope you are living off root crops at the moment, Ana. Not much choice of veg at this time of year.

Roses, why do you insist on telling us to wait and see?
We don't want to. We want to take part in meaningful discussions. If you don't want to, that's okay, you can just go and wait and see all on your own.

So you are quite happy to have twice as much immigration roses, just as long as it is not unlimited?

theconversation.com/red-lines-and-red-rags-europeans-unimpressed-by-britains-tough-talk-on-brexit-74395

Now May's just got to persuade the rest of Europe.

Why Djen what will you be actively doing then? Signing online petitions for something? Since we cannot personally oversee the leaving of the EU we tend to leave that to the politicians.That means waiting to see what deals they arrange.
We will have the number of immigration that we need less, the same, more.The days of not knowing how many EU immigrants will come here, or from which countries, or the types of jobs they are capable of doing, will be over.

Mazie I didn't get that from your post, but there is indeed some irony there! In any event, it's now my turn to take a break.

As an ardent remainer may I say two things?
1. Please stop using the expression 'remoaners' in the Forum it's hackneyed, patronising and rude.

2. I hope I am still alive and logging onto GN when the good life some people are expecting to come from Brexit arrives, because I hereby promise that I will be the first one to say to the good Brexit voters on GN,

'I must apologise profusely for getting it so wrong in 2016/17 when I campaigned so passionately to remain in the EU. You were right all along.'

Obviously, roses, you just stay behind your rosetinted glasses, and don't read the news at all.
The migrants we want don't want to stay or come here. They are leaving in droves. 40% of GPs heading for retirement, and nobody to replace them.
Oh, I forgot, you don't care about the NHS, do you?

Are you on countdown, Ginny? How long do you allow? Two years? Four years?

I have a theory that the reason May decided to stand for PM is because she realised that the Home Office job was the poisoned chalice of the Tory government. She had to try and reduce immigrants to the tens of thousands as Cameron said she had to. She knew it was impossible.
Now she can say what she wants, and expect Amber Rudd to do the impossible.
However, while she was Home Secretary, she managed to bring in this nasty piece of legislation.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/185283

blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/the-limbo-of-being-german-in-the-uk/

Theresa May is planning a tour of Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland to build consensus before she triggers article 50 and embarks on the formal Brexit process, the Guardian reports.

Government figures say it was always planned to reach out to all parts of the United Kingdom, including responding to the Scottish government’s Brexit white paper, in the final two weeks of March before embarking on talks with the EU countries.

When was that announced? As if!

TM is a strangely unemotional person. Watch her when she's speaking - no emotion, except irritation when cornered.

I won't be on the streets waving the flag when she comes to visit. What will she be doing on this grand tour? A few photo ops at schools and hospitals? Waving from an open topped bus? A few speeches to her supporters in different locations? What's the betting?

You could wave an EU flag, suzied .

Though I wouldn't be surprised if her itinerary were kept very quiet so as to minimise anti Brexit demos...

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/14/buy-british-button-could-let-online-shoppers-filter-foreign/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Back to 1966 then, the 'I'm backing Britain' campaign. Oh wait, I thought we were going to become a free trading nation with a glorious array of countries whose goods we would buy in exchange for us buying theirs?

durhamjen when will your little poisoned asides ever stop? You have so many!
You end your last little gem to me ....*Oh, I forgot, you don't care about the NHS do you* which is about as correct as your other comment Theresa May is your MP
( she isn't) why make all posts so casually rude and personal and often untrue?
For somebody who purports to be so very caring, you show very little of it on this forum.

I wouldn't want T May or any other PM male or female to be emotional in front of the cameras when they are doing their job Ginny there is a great deal to be said for a calm unflurried Leader, but that doesn't mean that she doesn't have feelings.Would other women really prefer a PM who gets 'teary' either when speaking to camera or in the HOC.I doubt it.