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May or Sturgeon?

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trisher Wed 22-Mar-17 10:25:06

Ok the question is which is the better politician?
I'm going for Sturgeon. I find her a better speaker, she seems more sincere and more able to withstand questioning.
May sometimes looks like a rabbit in the headlights (I know I'm the leader but what do they want me to say ?)
Occasionally comes across as the Head girl (You must do what the Headmaster wants-it is his school)
And sometimes just seems to be a bit lost and needs her notes.
I know many of you will say it is my political views that have influenced my choice and you may be right. But let me know who you prefer.
Oh and completely un PC but quite fun I think Sturgeon has the better outfits!

Badenkate Wed 22-Mar-17 12:26:44

May always reminds me of the school head girl as well. I also feel she could have been the nasty spiteful one who led the gang - she certainly gives all the signs of being a control freak (takes one to know one). I don't know where the idea of her being tough and fair comes from, you just have to look at her past record as Home Secretary to know the only ones who actually suffered from her toughness were the police who had to accept the derisory pay increases because they had no option, but she had no success whatsoever in cutting immigration numbers - not from the EU where her hands were tied to a large extent - but from outside the EU where you would have thought she would have had the upper hand. Then when she was elected leader she said she would have concern for all in society - well, there are a lot of people who are much worse off now than they were a year ago but she doesn't seem to care much about them.

Nicola Sturgeon I really didn't like at the beginning, but I think to a large extent this was a carry over from Alex Salmond who really made me cringe. I now don't dislike her as much because sometimes what she says makes a lot of sense. So I guess I feel less negatively about Sturgeon than May hmm.

I don't know who does Nicola Sturgeon's makeup, but I think she should get rid of them - sometimes she's even more orange than Trump! Clotheswise, Sturgeon always wears the same style so she's clearly very proud of her figure. I don't think she's very tall so I guess she has to be a bit careful what she wears. May, on the other hand, is clearly very tall and does what I know I do - stoops: a real problem with tall women. Some of her clothes look good, but I really don't like that colour block long jacket she wears. She also is clearly very proud of her legs because all her dresses and skirts are well above her knees - good luck to her, I wish my legs were as good as hers.

Gosh, I've enjoyed that. I rarely am catty and it is quite fun. Thanks Trisher I've let my inner-cat out. Now it's going back in!

trisher Wed 22-Mar-17 12:31:10

Good to get things out Badenkate and isn't it fun!!!

Lazigirl Wed 22-Mar-17 13:27:03

Why are comments on female MP's clothes "fair game" Riverwalk?

Ilovecheese Wed 22-Mar-17 13:29:12

If we're talking about good outfits it has to be Leanne Wood

MawBroon Wed 22-Mar-17 13:46:25

For cutting edge chic however we have to applaud the Shane Spicer "odd shoe" look! (One black brogue, or brown) Apparently it is massively "on trend" hmm
Who would have thought I was such a fashionista when I made exactly that fashion statement many years ago and had to face classes of sniggering teenagers? confused

MawBroon Wed 22-Mar-17 13:50:49

Begging his pardon
SEAN Spicer

Riverwalk Wed 22-Mar-17 13:50:56

For the reasons I mentioned Lazigirl.

I didn't say all female MPs, just the two in question who seem to take a particular pride in how they look.

Much has been made of Corbyn's scruffy appearance, Bozzer's hair, and Farage's Arthur Daley look, etc.

trisher Wed 22-Mar-17 13:52:02

Just occurred to me that if Sturgeon is a terrier (won't let go of things, good ratter) May is one of those aristocratic dogs (Afghan, Borzoi?) that has to be kept on a lead because when let off it will chase anything that moves and never come back to its owner!

Lazigirl Wed 22-Mar-17 14:09:56

I personally don't give a hoot what clothing, make up or hairstyle political leaders have, it's the substance rather than style that should count, but not in our superficial age apparently.

Riverwalk Wed 22-Mar-17 14:24:34

You might not give a hoot Lazigirl but TM & NS obviously do.

No politician is forced to wear gaudy, bright boxy suits (NS) or lounge around in leather trousers and Vivienne Westwood (TM) but they choose to do so.

Mo Mowlam, Claire Short and Anne Widdecombe didn't have make-overs when MPs.

trisher Wed 22-Mar-17 14:36:29

MawBroon Do you suppose those teenagers are now going "Caw, Miss really was ahead of her time" ?

bookdreamer Wed 22-Mar-17 14:37:05

What does annoy me though is the comments on Teresa mays clothes. In the Times each garment was accompanied with the appropriate cost of it.

They never do that to what male politicians are wearing

paddyann Wed 22-Mar-17 14:39:38

people have come to expect different things from MP's espcially party leaders,back in the day it mattered not a jot that McMillan or Wilson wore badly fitting suits etc or that they weren't brilliant in front of a TV camera .When Gordon Brown was around all I remember reading was his inability to "connect" with his media style and his dress sense .Nicola Sturgeon is young by comparison to Teresa May .of course they'll have different styles ,in clothes and presentation.The one thing they cant change is their nature .I am a supporter of Ms Sturgeon and her compassion for others is apparent in her attitudes on and off screen.Her clothes are made by a company local to Holyrood so she is supporting Scottish business Theresa May ,well I dont know if she can even SPELL compassion..she certainly doesn't have any.Not for the sick,the elderly ,the disabled etc etc etc.Wouldn't expect anything else from a tory though.

Riverwalk Wed 22-Mar-17 14:39:44

And most male politicians wouldn't do a fashion-shoot for Vogue.

POGS Wed 22-Mar-17 14:58:44

Riverwalk

What is wrong with our female ' politicians ' doing photo shoots for Vogue?

Riverwalk Wed 22-Mar-17 15:05:03

POGS nothing wrong - I was responding to a poster who queried why The Times doesn't query the cost of male MPs clothing.

Badenkate Wed 22-Mar-17 15:06:50

Well, I think my 'spiteful' comment about May has been vindicated. What a nasty comment about Corbyn sending his son to Grammar School.

Ana Wed 22-Mar-17 15:09:36

paddyann, why on earth shouldn't Theresa May be able to spell 'compassion'? What a rude comment to make, whatever you think of the tories.

POGS Wed 22-Mar-17 15:22:22

" Wouldn't expect anything else from a tory though. "

Well it certainly is an 'expected' comment .

nigglynellie Wed 22-Mar-17 15:25:12

and rather a pathetic one!!!

paddyann Wed 22-Mar-17 15:29:31

" doffs cap" sorry to the tory faithful I though we were allowed opinions here .Teresa May is sadly lacking in compassion, that is clear to see,I was questioning if she even KNOWS the word .

nigglynellie Wed 22-Mar-17 15:47:43

I can't see that subjecting the poor long suffering Scots to another once in a generation referendum is particularly compassionate or truthful, bearing in mind that the last referendum was three years ago! Forgive me, but even my bad maths knows that a generation is longer than three years!!!! Hard to believe anything this woman says!!
As for Theresa May, perhaps you could point out another politician who could do her job, particularly on the the benches opposite?! What do you expect her to do apart from the best she can for ALL of us?! Before you say about food banks, they were alive and very well under the last Labour government, as indeed were most things, good and bad.

Christinefrance Wed 22-Mar-17 16:26:50

Theresa May for me every time. I have the feeling that Nicola Sturgeon is more interested in power and furthering her own career. Ruth Davidson is the better person I think.

MawBroon Wed 22-Mar-17 16:44:31

I have a lot of time for Ruth Davidson and remember at the time of the London Mayoral elections an article (in the Guardian no less) which said the Tory party needed more Ruth Davidsons and fewer Zac Goldsmiths!!

Chewbacca Wed 22-Mar-17 17:00:32

Theresa May has a professional, calm and efficient manner about her. Nicola Sturgeon has an overexcited, nagging and hectoring persona. Sturgeon reminds me of an over wound clockwork toy because she just goes on and on and on and on...............