North Korea

Fitzy it's a complete and utter nonsense to compare the two papers. You can compare the Times, Telegraph and Guardian but the DM is not in that league. This morning's front page - paper 1 lead story about new driving test and sat navs, story two Prince George's uniform at his new school. Paper 2 lead story China, NK etc, story 2 shortage of Aand E doctors and high hourly rate being offered. I wonder which is which?

DJ to take financial services regulation as an example, I would expect an investigation into the apparant limited success in terms of prosecutions to look at matters like the difficulties involved in getting the evidence required to meet the very high standard of proof required in criminal cases, specific deficiencies in the law and reasons for them, problems with juries understanding the complexities, action regulators may have taken behind the scenes etc. There are always two sides to a story.
Rigby I accept all you say. In many ways it's like comparing the Beano with War and Peace. But I stand by the single issue I raised - that both papers are unashamedly and very strongly politically biased in one direction or the other, and in my view that results in less balanced reporting than in the other papers you mention. Nothing wrong with that - just not my cup of tea.

and in my view that results in less balanced reporting than in the other papers you mention.

What 'other papers' are you talking about, Fitzy? Rigby mentioned the Times and the Telegraph, both of which are right wing.

The Mirror and The Guardian = left wing
Times, Telegraph, Sun, Express & Daily Mail =right wing

Not quite sure where the Independent sits - left of centre, maybe.

I'm not altogether sure where one would go for 'balanced' reporting.

Mazie I'm aware of the political stance of all those papers, though I have virtually no experience of reading the mirror, the sun or the express. Having some experience of the rest I take the view that while they all have a stance, the Mail and the Guardian are significantly stronger in their bias than the others.

Hi Anya
Apart from Obama, who micro-managed his armed forces, then did nothing, Pres. Trump gives his top brass leeway, by allowing them to make military decisions/manoeuvers themselves. Who better? He's
following other Presidents e.g. both Bushs.

Can't wait to find out what that murderous dictator orders his generals to do. I'd enjoy watching the US fleet use his missiles for target practise .

Anya, Trump has an IQ of 160.

Being in commerce he's learning. He's doing more for the US than Obama; The much vaunted Obama Care has turned out to be full of graft.

Just as well Hilary Clinton didn't sell uranium to N Korea; she sold it to the Russians.

We don't know how the NK population manages to live under the fat dictator's thumb. This morning I was relieved to read and hear the missile test was faulty. Handy that, wasn't it?

Really pleased that the North Korean missile launch exploded on take off. That was the perfect result really. Not need for Trump to retaliate, yet. It's a pity it wasn't a nuclear missile launch though.

The perfect solution would be for the Democratc People's Republic of North Korea (or is it the People's Democratic Republic of North Korea [all very Monty Pythonesque]?) to blow itself to smithereens

LD don't believe everything you read in the press!

LD I didn't know whether to sob or laugh hysterically when I read your posts. Where on earth do you get your information from? Trump an IQ of 160? Well for starters even if that were true, (hahahahaha} IQ is simply a measure of how well you do in an IQ test - it says nothing about the sort of emotional, strategic and intellectual intelligence that one would need to be a great leader and president and a successful politician, Have you ever really listened to how he speaks? His sentence construction? His poor grammar, his limited vicsbulary? His repetition of phrases? And that's before even considering the content. He's jumped into Syria because he's failing to get what he wants domestically - he then gets applause and accolades for this and now the world is a scarier place as he looks for more of this.His latest domestic ED was to make it harder than ever for women to obtain contraception or abortion. He's a misogynist, nepotistic, evil, stupid and dangerous, golf playing sorry excuse for a man let alone a President ( God help us) who is taking the world to hell in a handcart - and he's not fit to lick Obama's boots

It is perfectly possible to somewhat hide high IQ and appear a buffoon to further your own ideals. Think of Boris.

Rifkin suggested that the US may have cyber- scuppered (my words not his) the missile to make it explode. Apparently they have that capability!!

So panic over folks. There is someone in the US who can press a button and make sure not a single missiles can do its evil job. Perhaps they will turn their attention to Syria now?

Rigby I agree. If it looks like a duck and it quacks, then it probably is a duck!

Occam's razor.

rigby

Quack quack. Oh look a duck!!

Oh snap anya

He is about as far from a lame one though as it is possible to be.
His power is immense. Too much power for one person.

Panic over for now.....but what next, NK cannot be allowed to go on testing until they get it right.

rose if you had listened to Rifkin this morning, he suggested that the panic may well not be over, as America has the capability - and probably did so in this case- of scuppering the missiles launch.

I am hoping he is wrong as it gives the world some breathing space to try to get China to use its influence and for someone to sit on Trump.

Only just got up!
The US will have to do something if only to force China's hand on sanctions to NK
It can't be left as it is.
If NK is developing ballistic missiles ( never mind nuclear ones) that can reach The US, then nothing can be left to chance, and they have to be stopped.
There are also worries about attacks on South Korea.
Doing nothing is not an option.

Sitting on Trump as you put it, ( he doesn't make these decisions alone) would not neccessarily be a good thing.
NK has to be reined in. China will have to be a big part of it no doubt, but if it fails then the US has no choice but to step in for their national security.

Anya, did you really want ordinary North Korean people to be blown up by a nuclear bomb?
His nuclear bombs have greater power than Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

So rose what do you envisage something must be done to be??

'The foreign secretary, Boris Johnson, urged North Korea to abide by UN resolutions and end its quest to develop nuclear weapons. “We have been here before but continue to monitor the situation carefully,” Johnson said in a statement.

“We stand alongside our international partners in making clear that North Korea must adhere to UN resolutions designed to secure peace and stability in the region and stop its pursuit of nuclear weapons.” '

Maybe the message from the UK would be more believable if we were not intent on replacing our nuclear missiles with more American ones. Standing behind our international partners, not alongside.

Johnson's embarrassment knows no bounds.

Standing behind UN resolutions? Tell that to the Palestinians.

Threats to NK is what I envisgae should be done, probably best by China ( if they cut off trade then NK would be sunk)
Threats are likely the only thing that would make NK pause for thought.
They have now seen the US explode a very powerful bomb in Afghanistan ( a show of strength) that will hopefully make NK think twice as well.
The difference in stable givernments having nuclear missiles, as opposed to unstable ones like NK should be obvious.

They have never ever responded to threats. So unclear how they would work this time. Indeed they generally have the opposit effect and push NK further down the military road.