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Should I vote Labour

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whitewave Tue 25-Apr-17 13:05:46

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Statement of intent not the manifesto

1. Reverse the cut in corporation tax saving £64bn over the parliamentary cycle
2£10 minimum wage for all over 18s
3. 17% rise in unpaid farmers allowance (exrea £500 pa) - paid by reversing the Inheritance Tax cut.
4. Renationalise railways as the franchises lapse
5. Stop NHS private contracts. Phase out existing private contracts thus saving 3.5bn - 5bn at present going as profit to the private health companies
6. Build 200k homes a year. Half from the private sector and half council homes by giving LAs the power to borrow against assets. This should ensure that 12bn housing benefit bill at present going into private landlords pockets should gradually fall.
7. 4 new public holidays
8. End zero- hours jobs by guaranteeing a contract for all workers on regular hours.
9 Ban any company from tendering for government contracts if they are based in an off shore tax haven and pay their CEO more tha £350k pa
10 stop the opening of new free schools and grammars
11 Stop sweetheart deLs between HMRC and bug corps. All large companies should publish their tax returns
12 Eradicate gender pay gap
13 cut business rates by £1.5bn
14 End the practice by large corps, of taking longer than the accepted 28 days to pay SMEs

rosesarered Fri 05-May-17 19:35:18

Yes, they will Beam.... and the bitter end isn't far away!

Jalima1108 Fri 05-May-17 20:22:47

The metro mayors were in the cities.
I think I understand what 'metro' means grin

I was talking about Andy Burnham

rosesarered Fri 05-May-17 20:43:51

He of the long eyelashes.

Jalima1108 Fri 05-May-17 20:45:00

It's just not fair, is it.

(the eyelashes I mean)

Fitzy54 Fri 05-May-17 20:49:34

DJ, Rigby, neither UKIP, nor any "fascist, right wing" groups are advocating voting tory as far as I am aware. It's the support given by dedicated, politically active, extreme groups that I was commenting on. The leadership of such organisations mean business and would not support a party that they did not truly believe would implement policies very close to their own hearts.

Anniebach Fri 05-May-17 20:50:57

I voted for Andy when Milliband won the leadership. I am more than irritated ti keep hearing Wales did not suffer the wipeout predicted, McDonald and Corbyn were sooooo pleased, we campaigned as Welsh Labour with Carwyn our leader, Corbyn wasn't spoken of . It will be difficult come the election, we do not want Corbyns face on our fliers, our TV broadcasts are on behalf of Welsh Labour .party not Labour Party.

durhamjen Fri 05-May-17 21:01:07

Fitzy, who do the BNP suggest people vote for?

Ana Fri 05-May-17 21:06:21

The older he gets, the more strange those eyelashes look...

durhamjen Fri 05-May-17 21:10:03

Jalima, a third of the population of the UK now have a directly elected metropolitan mayor.

Anniebach Fri 05-May-17 21:11:29

Corbyn has trotted to Manchester and greeted with cheers, for some strange reason Andy didn't accompany him , wonder why!

Anniebach Fri 05-May-17 21:23:52

Well, seems Andy didn't know Jez was going to Manchester, Jez mailed momentum supporters but no others, explains the cheers and chants when he arrived, it was ?Momentum arranged , yet again,

Beammeupscottie Fri 05-May-17 21:35:09

I had a certain respect for the Labour guy who was defeated by Andy Street (the Solihull J.Lewis fans swung it) for Mayor of W,Mids. He said he had had trouble selling Labour because of antipathy towards the leader!

Anniebach Fri 05-May-17 21:48:47

Many interviewed today said the same Beam, but not Lady Shami who hasn't encountered any troubles during her campaigning !

Beammeupscottie Fri 05-May-17 21:50:22

She's another resident of Cloud Cuckoo Land.

Anniebach Fri 05-May-17 21:57:00

Quite a clever girl realy Beam, joins the party, gets the anti semitism allegations to investigate, in April , finds no faults and heads for the Lords and the title of baroness in August

Beammeupscottie Fri 05-May-17 21:59:18

Clever, yes, but smug and self-righteous. Always thought she was iffy.

Anniebach Fri 05-May-17 22:02:06

Dishonest, she was against the Lords but got her bum on the benches pretty damn quickly,

Anniebach Fri 05-May-17 22:07:59

Not forgetting Shami is against grammer schools because they enforce segregation, her son is educated at Dulwhich College !

Beammeupscottie Fri 05-May-17 22:10:35

At least Tony Blair and Cameron (and even Gove)sent/send their children State.
They are such whited sepulchres.

Beammeupscottie Fri 05-May-17 22:15:55

Abbot and Chakrabarti that is. I was surprised to learn that Thornberry is a member of the Aristocracy (father is a Lord and a Tory Grandee) methinks a bit of family rebellion?
Talk about zeal of the converted!

MaizieD Fri 05-May-17 22:54:01

I was surprised to learn that Thornberry is a member of the Aristocracy (father is a Lord and a Tory Grandee)

I think someone's been feeding you fake news, Beam

www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/nov/21/emily-thornberry-profile-labour-mp-islington

Born in July 1960, Emily Thornberry was raised on a council estate outside Guildford by her mother, a teacher and Labour councillor, after her parents divorced when she was seven. Her father Cedric Thornberry was an academic and human rights lawyer.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cedric_Thornberry

Of course, the wikipedia article could be talking about a completely different Cedric Thornberry, but it does say that Emily is his daughter.

Jalima1108 Fri 05-May-17 23:16:49

Beam
Emily Thornberry's father was Assistant Secretary General of the United Nations.
For whatever reason, she was brought up on a council estate after her parents' divorce.
She joined the Labour party at 17, motivated, she said later, by her “hard” and “unfair” upbringing.
so one would presume that her father abandoned the family and her mother was left to bring the family up on her own.
‘My mum struggled for years to bring up me and my brothers on benefits'
'You can take the girl out of the estate, but you can’t take the estate out of the girl.’
Which makes her remarks about white vans and English flags all the more odd.

As her husband is Sir Christopher Nugee her correct title is Lady Nugee.

daphnedill Fri 05-May-17 23:22:36

Please could you explain why it's odd.

All Thornberry did at the time was to tweet a picture of a house adorned with England flags and a white van in front. I can't remember the exact comment, but it wasn't derogatory. That was the media's interpretation.

In any case, why should anybody who's been brought up on an estate have what some would call a "white van man mentality"? It seems to me that's a stereotypical attitude.

Jalima1108 Fri 05-May-17 23:37:42

There's a whole thread about it somewhere if you're interested daphnedill

Anyway, I had addressed my post to BeammeupScottie
to explain some slight misconceptions she had and why what she thought about ET being a member of the aristocracy was an understandable mistake.

Eloethan Sat 06-May-17 01:10:24

The caption was "Image from Rochester" and that is what it was, a photo image from Rochester. The howls of indignation were a put up job to try and discredit her. I quite liked Ed Miliband but I thought it was cowardly of him not to support her.

It seems to me fairly obvious that whatever background or image a Labour politician has, if their views do not adjust to accommodate a basically right wing agenda, they can be assured they will be attacked on whatever spurious charges can be drummed up.

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