Should I vote Labour

Are you sure you are a member, Annie?

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Corbynism or barbarism.

Seems some work on the - if you say it often enough people will believe it , and you will even come to believe it yourself

Aren't there quite a few Labour Party members at the moment who only joined the Party so that they could vote for Corbyn as leader? I don't suppose the ones who joined so as to get him as leader because they thought his being leader would be disastrous for the Party will care if their membership is rescinded. They'll have achieved their purpose.

I keep hearing stories about lifelong Labour voters who don't feel they can vote Labour this time. I know some personally too.

Good post thatbags , but Jen claimed only those on the right and those who joined to get him the leadership were of the left

Our local Labour Party wrote to OH asking him if he would like to canvas for them.
He told them why he wouldn't, and why.
He will probably go on the list.

I didn't, Annie. I said mainly, not only.
It is mainly those members on the right of the party who are saying not to vote Labour. Lots of MPs among them, too.

Are you a member of the voting police POGS? Surely it is for everyone and their conscience to decide how they vote

Well, apparently it is not for everyone and their conscience to decide how they vote - or at least, they can as long as they resign their Labour party membership first if they want to vote for another party.

As djen says:
The Labour party headquarters are checking for any members advocating tactical voting, in particular suggesting other parties to vote for.
It's against party rules.
Tony Blair has been advocating that people vote for other parties. I hope we find out when he gets suspended from the party.

Which I read as POGS agreeing with.

durhamjen

" It is mainly those members on the right of the party who are saying not to vote Labour. Lots of MPs among them, too."

You are most certainly not right of the party, you are a return Labour Member because of Corbyns Leadership , as you have posted. You have been advocating 'tactical voting' which in turn, dependent on the constituency, could mean voting against a Labour candidate.

How will the Labour Party HQ find out if a Labour Member is advising to vote against a Labour candidate? What will they do to any Labour MP advocating 'tactical voting'?

Are you of the belief telling somebody to 'vote tactically' is not telling them to necessarily vote Labour?

On the subject of the OP:
You should vote Labour because if we leave the Customs Union it will be a disaster for our economy - big tariffs will be instantly slapped onto our exports, making them much more expensive in Europe.
Teresa May is intent on going for the most harmful possible Brexit.

It's 'alright' to vote tactically as long as you are trying to oust a Tory MP , I think I have understood that correctly

You should also vote labour because there is a housing crisis. There is little social housing being built anywhere. Social housing is being sold off. Young people have been priced out of he housing market. A Labour government would start the building of council houses and other social housing. This has been blocked under Tory policy.

POGS, don't you know what MAINLY means, either?
Have you not noticed that the links I have put up have been MAINLY to tell people to vote Labour, because they are usually in second place?

Have I ever said or implied that I am on the right of the party- unlike Annie who supports Blair and anyone but Corbyn.

Jack Monroe is standing for the NHA in Southend.
I had heard that Jack was going to stand as an independent. Good that Jack has party support.

Blair left parliament ten years ago Jen, I really think you need a rest from politics.

I supported,Blair, Brown, Milliband and did think I was right to support Corbyn - big mistake , still so regret not voting for Andy or Yvette , got taken in by a con man ,

durhamjen

As you ask.

Actually nobody could have failed to notice that you have been telling posters and provided plenty of information as to how to 'vote tactica!lly'.

So NO you have not mainly been advising posters to vote Labour. That is the reason I find your posts are totally at odds from thread to thread, post to post.

I have noticed you give reasons how / why to vote tactically, Labour, Lib Dem , Green and if I am not mistaken one of your past 'vote fors' the National Health Party once.

You haven't answered my question as to how the Labour Party HQ can find out Labour Party Members who advocate 'tactical voting' , voting for other parties as you do. You said the Labour Party HQ will rescind the membership of Labour Party Members for doing so. Nor have you answered what will they do with MP's who advocate 'voting tactically', which by it's nature means not voting Labour neccessarily.

Lord knows even I could give them a list of MP's and Labour Party Members such as Blair and Peter Mandelson to kick start them.

I'm going to ask OH, as a Labour Party member, to ask our local office what he thinks of this statement Re ^Headquarters are checking any members advocating tactical voting. I will link to this thread in case he thinks I'm a head case.

I am sure Jen will post a link supporting her claim

I have just looked through the voting tactically thread, and nowhere there do I "tell" people to vote for anything other than Labour.
I mention lists, but they are all for voting Labour. I mention people who are standing, but I do not tell anyone to vote for them.

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I did not post on the thread until halfway through.

I have said that Zac Goldsmith is standing in his old seat, which would be a good reason to vote liberal in that constituency.
I don't think that's telling people not to vote labour. If people vote labour there, it will be letting Goldsmith back in.

I know momentum have the knives out for Ben, if he thrown out I will leave the party. He is a lovely man, loyal to the Labour Party, kind, and honest, very popular with fellow MP's, The very opposite to the leader. I hope voters in his Devon constituency vote for him

I have just been reading the Conservative thread, and all I have said on there is a good or another reason not to vote Tory. That is not telling people to vote for another party other than labour.

Where does it say in your link those MP's are out?

What are you on about, Annie?

Ben Bradshaw? Labour, Exeter

On Corbyn's hit list.