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whitewave Tue 25-Apr-17 13:07:35

Anyone got any information we can put onto this thread please?

daphnedill Tue 09-May-17 10:38:38

The Trussell Trust was asked about nurses. It said it doesn't record occupations,but some of its food banks had reported that nurses had used them. I guess that's where that story came from.

It shouldn't be forgotten that some people are called nurses, including ward assistants, etc, who are paid on a much lower pay scale than qualified nurses. Some of them only work part-time and others are bank staff,who don't receive a regular income.

I don't think anybody has lied about nurses' using food banks, but it's not a very meaningful claim, unless details are known.

Jalima1108 Tue 09-May-17 12:11:51

I read that it was 'student nurses' somewhere, can't remember where now.

Do people who use food banks have to be referred by the GP or Social Services?

whitewave Tue 09-May-17 12:16:33

During the run up to the last election, Miiliband announced that Labour would cap fuel bills -Shock, Horror from the Tories who accused "red" Ed of communist tendencies and rampant left wing policies.

Guess what folks!!!!!! grin So can we take it that Mediocre May has been on the road to Damascus, or merely chasing every vote she can get in order to become Kim Jong-May? My bet is the latter.

daphnedill Tue 09-May-17 13:16:46

People can be referred to food banks by a number of organisations, including GPs, social services, the CAB. Food banks only provide food for three days - all tins and packages. They sometimes also provide sanitary protection and nappies.

You can't just roll up and say you're a bit peckish and ask for a couple of tins of beans and a packet of Corn Flakes.

People who use food banks have already had an appointment with a charity such as the CAB, because they're in difficulty, or their GP because they're ill.

Jalima1108 Tue 09-May-17 17:31:03

Well, I thought that was how it worked and I know what is needed, no fresh food.
Although tins of fruit apparently always very welcome as no fresh fruit can be donated.

Granny23 Tue 09-May-17 21:11:41

Locally we have 2 foodbanks. The one supported mainly by the local churches is quite formal. Customers must have a written referral from SW, CAB, GP, and is given a 3 day supply of tins, longlife milk, cereal etc. They have a huge stockroom, the shelves laden with dried and tinned food. Advice is given re applying for emergency cash and no one is allowed more than 3x3day supplies. People are not encouraged to visit the centre - the bags of food are delivered by volunteers to their home address (which has led to accusations that elderly men in posh cars are leaving the food bank with loads of bags of food.

The other Food bank takes donations of fruit and veg from gardeners and allotment owners and is happy to accept HM jam and baking. There is usually a pot of soup, tea & scones on the go for anyone who drops in. Their bags of groceries vary according to the needs of the customers (e.g. they always ask if there are facilities for heating or cooking food) and what they happen to have in stock at the time. They do not require referrals, nor do they keep careful records. They do not distinguish between the deserving/undeserving, they say that no child should go hungry regardless of whether their family have fallen on hard times or always been feckless.

Neither of these foodbanks is affiliated to the Trussell Trust, so the numbers helped there will not be included in the Trust's figures.

rosesarered Tue 09-May-17 21:14:08

They sound excellent Granny23 smile

M0nica Tue 09-May-17 21:52:04

If you believe it.

Elegran Tue 09-May-17 21:54:21

Do you think Granny23 invented that, Monica ?

Ana Tue 09-May-17 22:04:09

In fact, are you calling her a liar? hmm

trisher Tue 09-May-17 22:12:13

Sounds true to me M0nica. Perhaps you just don't want to recognise the problem.

Elegran Tue 09-May-17 22:18:31

I have just googled Granny23's local area food banks. there are indeed two banks, exactly as she describes them.

I have PMed you with the Google search details, Monica

I would say that an apology is due.

M0nica Tue 09-May-17 22:22:54

Something went wrong. My post was meant to refer to an article saying Teresa May intended to hand the NHS over to an American company, not the discussion directly above it.

Either I was reading one of the (many) other pages on this thread thinking it was the last one or I managed to type a reply on the wrong thread hmmblush.

I am most emphatically not arguing about food banks and the need for them. Nor am I questioning Granny23's probity. We collect for local food banks at church each week - and I contribute regularly.

Elegran Tue 09-May-17 22:38:19

I am glad to hear that, Monica - and I am sure granny23 will be too.

minesaprosecco Tue 09-May-17 22:49:06

Am I the only one who thinks it's obscene that we have to have foodbanks at all? I am not saying anything against anyone who runs one, or who donates food, but people should not have to rely on charity when they fall on hard times. We had moved so far away from the destitution and desperation of past generations, and we are now rapidly regressing to those days.

minesaprosecco Tue 09-May-17 22:51:21

And getting back to the title of the thread, Theresa May had stated that she is in favour of fox hunting and will allow a vote on overturning the ban. Maybe for some this will be a reason not to vote Conservative.

Elegran Tue 09-May-17 22:52:31

There have been threads on food banks before now, and everyone agrees with you, minesaprosecco. If that is not repeated on this thread, it is because it has already been said, not because everyone is complacent about the need for them.

rosesarered Tue 09-May-17 22:53:37

Food banks have actually been around for a very long time minesaprosecco or you could say they have never gone away.

Elegran Tue 09-May-17 22:57:46

Did she actually say that she was in favour or that she didn't rule it out if there was a majority for it? There is a difference between the two.

Allowing a vote is not as definite as encouraging people to vote for the return - the vote is more likely to result in the ban staying.

daphnedill Wed 10-May-17 00:40:29

More news that some Conservative local parties aren't happy with the candidates they've had foisted on them:

www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2017/05/centralisation-and-chaos-inside-the-rush-to-select-conservative-candidates-in-time-for-the-election.html

whitewave Wed 10-May-17 08:15:30

Definately vote Tory if you want fox hunting brought back. May believes in fox hunting and will include a bill in her next parliament.

Watch out foxes!! Here come the unspeakables!!

MaizieD Wed 10-May-17 08:49:41

I don't think it'll be the vote winner her team think it is. A good proportion of pro hunting people probably vote Tory anyway and I think they're more than neutralised by (mostly) urban voters who detest it.
It feels a bit like barrel scraping to me.

whitewave Wed 10-May-17 08:54:56

May is scraping every barrel in her cellar - it's in pursuit of her dream of becoming Kim Jong-May

whitewave Wed 10-May-17 08:58:43

There is a rumour that Kim Jong May's move towards communism, and fuel pay freeze may be scuttled by apoplectic Tories, who have fainted at this whiff of socialism.

rosesarered Wed 10-May-17 09:11:45

Does it make you feel better to call T May names ww ?

They say that name calling the powerful in society is a way of taking away fear,
Perhaps that is true ( as it looks like a Conservative victory is on the cards.)

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