Can we really Trust Teresa May with a blank cheque?

WW. Mon 05-Jun-17 15:57:25

Reading an article in "The Register" an IT publication - and there is a lot of merriment at Maybots expense over her plans to tackle terrorism by banning stuff on the internet.

Reading what is being said, she clearly is clueless.

Really?

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/may/26/theresa-may-calls-g7-leaders-help-prosecute-foreign-fighters

G7 leaders also backed the prime minister’s call for internet companies such as Google, Facebook and Twitter to better target extremist messages online, including by developing technology which automatically identifies and removes messages that incite violence.

“We agreed that the threat from Daesh [Isis] is evolving rather than disappearing. As they lose ground in Iraq and Syria, foreign fighters are returning and the group’s hateful ideology is spreading online,” the prime minister said.

Describing the G7 joint statement as “a significant step forward”, May said she wanted to see terrorist material taken down “more urgently and more rapidly than it is at the moment”

“Make no mistake, the fight is moving from the battlefield to the internet. In the UK, we are already working with social media companies to halt the spread of extremist material and hateful propaganda that is warping young minds. I am clear that corporations can do more. Indeed they have a social responsibility to now step up their efforts to remove harmful content from their networks.”

“Today, I called on leaders to do more. We agreed a range of steps the G7 could take to strengthen its work with tech companies on this vital agenda. We want companies to develop tools to identify and remove harmful materials automatically.”

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OK I will outline what I read relating to the May's speech

It is a piece by Aaron Swartz -

May wants to ban cryptography.

Swartz argues that this is a classic bit of foolish political grandstanding.

MAY argued that there must be no "means of communication which we cannot read "

Swartz argues that it is impossible to overstate how bonkers the idea of sabotaging cryptography is to people who understand information security.

If you want to secure your data .............you have to use good cryptography.

To use deliberately compromised cryptology is to effectively have no security at all........."

As I understand it all our data including that held by the medical world, police , defence etc would be open to abuse.

In effect what May is proposing is to have a "master key " which will allow authorities access to all our secure information. But to do so will "introduce unquantifiable" security risks. What they are saying is that there is no back door that will allow only the good guys in. It can't exist.

As soon as this vulnerability exists it will only be a matter of short time before the world's bad guys have access.

The regime May is suggesting is already in place in such countries as Russia and Iran, and we know there are ways around this.

Swartz lists some of the direct affects of Mays proposal

1all communication will be easy to "hack" by criminals, spies and voyeurs.

2 any firms within reach of the UK government must be banned from producing secure software

3 all major code repositories such as Githuip and sourceforge must be blocked

4search engines must not answer queries about web-pages that carry secure software

5 virtually all academic security work in the UK must cease

6 all packets in and out of the UK must be inspected for banned software

7smartphones must be banned from entering the UK

Swartz goes on. But perhaps you now understand how the techies find Mays suggestions so implausible.

When did the Conservative Party become the Conservative and Unionist party [just noticed when I was browsing a tactical voting link]? Given that the events of the past year will possibly result in a united Ireland and Scotland's independence isn't the unionist part a bit misleading?

Always tegan just Tories for short. Joke isn't it??!!

Both party's have their failings and personalities that I don't like. No party can be perfect. It is the same with policies. I don't think we can trust the Tories with a blank cheque. They have said nothing or done nothing over the last 7 years which would give me an ounce of belief that they could. I started out not liking Corbyn at all, I think I was listening to too many people's opinions and reading too many newspaper reports. Since the election has been called I have actually taken the time to listen to what he has to say. I trust him more than I trust May.

Most people do once they listen to his speeches and ideas. It is only the rich who aren't keen. Too busy keeping their hands on their illgotten gains

I think they've been the Conservative and Unionist party since at least the late 19th century (but I'd have to check; though google is your friend..) Probably because of agitation for Irish independence. There's been no Union with Wales because the English annexed it in mediaeval times and the formal Union with Scotland was in the early 18th century.

Yup! From Wikipedia

During the 1890s, it formed a coalition government with the Liberal Unionist Party, a break-away faction of the Liberal Party. In 1912, the two parties merged to form the current Conservative and Unionist Party.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(UK)

As a child in Scotland I was puzzled that the Unionists did not seem to like trade unions and not all the socialites were Socialists.

The independent has published an article given to it by some NHS chiefs that says that there are secret plans to be implemented immediately after the election that will be the biggest cost cutting excercise ever.

The truly shocking cuts will spell the death knell of the NHS

Dyffryn I think many people feel as you do. I notice even Labour Party MPs are beginning to say the same.

If all you see is a caricature of someone then you do think that is who they are. The good thing about an election is that those who were presenting us with that view have to be more balanced in their reporting.

I have said it before but my dream would be that the LP got in and immediately put forward a bill for PR. The all the parties could have a voice relevant to their support in the country. You are so right that no party is perfect and this would help balance the views rather than a winner takes all situation.

Sadly I think May will win again but the more votes that are against her - for whatever party - the more the Conservative will have to think about what they are doing. They don't know. Twice they have said "judge us on what we have done" and twice they looked surprised that this induced laughter in the audience. They just don't understand the damage they have done to people's lives.

The Then

Wait until after the election - you aint seen nothing yet!!

I can believe they thought they could do that whitewave. There was a sense before, and at the beginning of the election, that they thought they had taken us for fools.

I don't know if the knees would stand marching but we need to continue to tell them that our NHS should not be destroyed just so the already rich can make more money from people like my poor old mum when it is privatised.

The next 5 years will bring about a UK totally unrecognisable from the one we have known all our lives

Why wait? You ain't seen nothing yet!

skwawkbox.org/2017/06/06/met-taking-may-electoral-breach-re-abbott-very-seriously-ge17/

If May goes - who?

My bet is Gove or Fox

You'll make me cry whitewave. It doesn't bear thinking of.

Nightmare prospect ww. I can hardly believe that last year I thought TM was a good bet because at least she wasn't Andrea Leadsom, but either if these two would be just appalling.

May was in Middlesborough. This is her candidate being honest. Jacob Young, he's called, just in case you get him foisted on your area in the next election.

skwawkbox.org/2017/06/06/tory-candidate-i-dont-know-what-torymanifesto-says-ge17/

Poor lad.

By the way, Gove said it was okay for us to get our news from skwawkbox. He might be regretting that now.

I was at a hustings yesterday. The Conservative candidate, who has been foisted on us, passed on a question about the environment and admitted she didn't know what the Conservative manifesto said about the issue. Unfortunately, she'll still win.

Sad, daphne. Here's Mayhem's lies factchecked on the NHS. Can't you shove some copies through people's doors?

fullfact.org/health/spending-english-nhs/

Surely they care about their hospitals.

kittysjones.wordpress.com/2017/06/06/theresa-may-voted-against-anti-terror-legislation-jeremy-corbyn-signed-a-motion-that-condemned-ira-violence-in-1994/

twitter.com/FelicityMorse/status/871821207313821696?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fvoxpoliticalonline.com%2F2017%2F06%2F06%2Fthese-two-clips-show-why-labour-must-win-the-general-election%2F

Why we can't trust the Cons.