Can we really Trust Teresa May with a blank cheque?

Maizie you are getting very worked up .....can't be good for the health.
You said 'I wonder how people will react to the fact that she is talking about fox hunting again'
Well, I gave you my answer.

What you really wanted to hear was ' Hell! The whole country will be up in arms'
But it wouldn't be true at all.A lot of people want to restore fox hunting and were extremely upset that it was banned ( with hounds).

I wonder how people will react to the fact that she is also talking of allowing fox hunting again.
That's a bit disingenuous because she can't allow fox hunting again, it is banned by Act of Parliament (2004) as we all know. She may be in favour of it and she may want to allow another vote. But of course she can't allow it.

Another vote would retain the ban I would think.

I would think
if I am allowed to say that

I think so.....but

You said 'I wonder how people will react to the fact that she is talking about fox hunting again'
Well, I gave you my answer.

Well,
actually,

I didn't.

www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-05-08/it-s-all-about-may-as-premier-brands-u-k-election-her-own

President May.

Sorry Maizie no you didn't say it, it was Welshwife I do apologise ( your name was the post above that one)

So, my comments are to ww about foxhunting ( I don't agree with bringing it back btw) but I can't see enough votes to actually allow that to happen anyway.

Thank you roses.

I'm actually quite neutral about foxhunting though I live in a horsey world where many people I know do hunt and would be glad to see the ban overturned.

I don't think it'll be a runner, though, for reasons I've already given on another thread.

I don't have strong views and realise that foxes need to be culled from time to time but I would prefer that the animal was shot immediately it was caught - leaving it to the hounds is just merciless and I do not agree with that.

Drag hunting must be very similar and more humane.

I think foxes are more of a problem in cities but we can't have horses and hounds tearing through London suburbs!
Although they have been known to go through people's gardens in the countryside.

There are many more important issues than fox hunting on which MPs should be given a vote.

Fox hunting with dogs has been banned and should remain banned. I'm concerned that it's even an issue.

Deer are more of a problem in this rural area and need culling.

Is there a policy for culling foxes in urban areas?
We are very countrified here and get deer and wild boar in the garden at times.

Surely this has been done on the May basis of winning the elections; just throw every principle out and try and put in something to attract each and every section of the voting population.

Who is the elephant in the room?

link.huffingtonpost.com/click/9587953.11447/aHR0cHM6Ly90d2l0dGVyLmNvbS9EYW5ueUR1dGNoL3N0YXR1cy84NjA4NjQ4MjgzNjEwNjAzNTI_bmNpZD1uZXdzbGV0dGVyLXVr/58853a96289acb7c158b4691Bbc678f10

A very depressing read for Sunday

Theresa May’s Vapid Vision for a One-Party State

Mrs. May’s idea that her opponents are merely playing self-interested political “games” is a classic populist trope, one that suggests that constitutional democracy is really an obstacle standing between people and leader. The prime minister’s rhetoric since calling the general election has implied that the best outcome for “the national interest” would be to eradicate opposition altogether, whether that be in the news media, Parliament or the judiciary. For various reasons (not least the rise of the Scottish National Party) it is virtually impossible to imagine the Labour Party achieving a parliamentary majority ever again, as Mrs. May well knows. To put all this another way, the main purpose of this election is to destroy two-party politics as Britain has known it since 1945.

One way in which Mrs. May has aggressively pursued this outcome is in her unusual framing of the choice before the British electorate. We are used to politicians presenting policy proposals and promises to the public. Of course, in practice this involves spin doctors seeking to cast their party’s policies in the best light, news outlets twisting the message depending on their political biases and many voters turning away in disgust because they don’t believe a word politicians say. That’s the routine.

The Labour Party, despite occasional populist swipes at the news media, has been sticking roughly to this script. There is a certain irony in this, seeing as Labour, under the socialist leadership of Jeremy Corbyn, has become viewed by many pundits and voters as an implausible party of government. But Labour has nevertheless been regularly putting out clear and reasonably worked-out policy proposals since the election was announced on April 18.

By contrast, Mrs. May has made scarcely any statements regarding policy. Her speeches and campaign literature are peppered with the slogan “strong and stable leadership,” a phrase she then recites on the few occasions that she takes questions from journalists or members of the public. The very basis on which she is asking to be trusted and to be elected seems different from an ordinary policy platform. From a leader of a party still in thrall to Margaret Thatcher, Mrs. May’s virtual silence on the economy is astonishing. The decision to vote Conservative is not to be based on knowledge of what a Conservative government will do — nobody has much of a clue about anything right now — but because of the desperate need for “strong and stable leadership.”

There's more in the article

www.nytimes.com/2017/05/11/opinion/theresa-mays-vapid-vision-for-a-one-party-state.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0

Why does Theresa May have lots of people standing behind her holding up large airmail envelopes?
Is that because the Tories only want us to talk to other EU countries by airmail?

Er do we not need strong and stable leadership then? Doesn't seem a bad idea to me.

Maybe jane but we also need strong economic policies, and much more, but May is utterly silent.
Silent on the economy
Silent on the Welfare State
Silent on Brexit
Silent on the NHS
Well actually apart from strong and stable she is silent on nearly everything.

Oh yes today I heard that they will match Labours house building. But how they will do it - silence.

Let's hope next week there will be a light shone into all these areas

Jane10.

We need to ask what strong and stable leadership means in the case of Teresa May ?

I might be very different from what many of us who are more moderate in our political views might desire. I did express the view that we need to be quite clear the election is NOT on Brexit it is on policies for healing and improving the quality of life of the nation over the next five years. I want a bright future for my grandchildren, I am not sure that Teresa May knows how to achieve that with her political dogma, or that I can presently 100% trust her without her being willing to debate her policies in front of the Nation.
Should I be concerned that a person who claims to want to provide strong and stable leadership, is not prepared to accept public scrutiny about her claims? Why is she only prepared to campaign in from of staged PR opportunities and party faithful ? That is NOT leadership quality, there are more questions as to her claim to offer strong and stable leadership than answers at this stage.

Apologies first word in 2nd sentence should read "It" not "I" in my last message

James

Nobody on here has suggested who else would do a better job at present than Theresa May. Lots of bleating on about what a perfect politician would look like and do but no practicalities. Bottom line no politician of any party or none would please absolutely everybody. I've voted Labour, Lib Dem and independent before but currently, TM is a least worst option. Good luck to her she's got a hellish few years in front of her.

Strong and stable leadership might be a desirable quality in a leader but not when the leader is showing signs of trying to eliminate all opposition and would clearly be happier with a one party state where people do what she tells them to do.

That is called a dictatorship and that is what the whole idea of *parliamentary sovereignty' and strong opposition is in place to check.

We can't stop Brexit. She had no need to call an election. but this isn't really a parliamentary election, it's turning into a leadership election. This is so dangerous and the whole tone of it is frighteningly fascist. 'The state is me' is the message she is pushing all the time.

Why people can't see beyond 'strong and stable' and look at the tory's record, and what they are likely to do when they get their landslide, and vote to contain her is mystifying me.

Good post, James.

OK then for the third time who could carry out the Brexit negotiations? Slag away at TM as that's what you want to do. I hope it makes you feel better as it certainly doesn't help the situation in any useful way.