Can we really Trust Teresa May with a blank cheque?

Blimey you've all been going at it on this thread!
The way some posts read it looks like Theresa May has single handedly and entirely on her own done/failed to have done all sorts of things. However, she is only one person and there are literally hundreds of people behind the work of all these departments. She can't personally be responsible.
For what its worth ( and I can hear some of you saying 'thats not much'!), I think history will see her as a person having to clear up a mess not of her own making and trying to make the best of it.
After all - who else could do it?!

I think so too Jane

jane compare her time in the Home Office with say Goves or Osborne. I certainly hated what they did but no one can accuse them of ineffectuality, like May, - at the end of the day she takes the flak as head of the department, but was extremely good at reputation management.

Exactly Jane, but don't expect any of the rest to agree with you.

And of course we haven't looked at immigration nor her ineffectualness and cock up over expelling a couple of terrorists.

I thought all Remainers (well, nearly all) were pro immigration and everyone's Human Rights?

I see James has disappeared!

Light blue touch paper and retire

Jalima, I didn't make the same mistake. The second time I corrected the fact that I has mispelt Theresa. I don't normally do that. Back page of the wraparound - backing ME, voting for MY conservative candidate. That's the page the locals are going to have to pay for.

She did eventually manage to get rid of what's his name. Although all his relatives are still here, living on benefits.

jalima I am looking at May's term of office and her effectiveness - not what I would have preferred to have happened.

She can't personally be responsible.

When you are a government Minister you are personally responsible for the actions of your department. And you are responsible for Departmental Policy; that's your job.

Honourable Ministers have resigned before now over departmental mistakes, and failures to produced promised results.

To be fair, most of the time it was the Labour government trying and failing to deport Abu Hamza, then the ECHR blocked it and Theresa May finally managed to extradite him to the USA.
If I remember correctly, I am sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

As I understand it Ed Milliband was going to FREEZE energy bills. Theresa May is talking about putting a CAP on energy bills.

I heard it explained today that the former meant if energy costs dropped then energy bills would not be able to be reduced. The latter means that there will be a limit on how much energy bills can rise, but could still be reduced

You are right sunseeker it isn't the same exactly as the Miliband idea.

you are wrong, sunseeker and roses.

Just like May, Millibands' stated intention was to freeze energy prices so that they could go down, but not up.

Labour will freeze energy bills until 2017, ensuring that bills can fall but not rise, and we will give the regulator the power to cut bills this winter.

Page 25 of the 2015 Labour Manifesto

www.labour.org.uk/page/-/BritainCanBeBetter-TheLabourPartyManifesto2015.pdf

sunseeker [Grin] well that is OK then - such nuances clearly make all the differences.

Nuances like one is proposed by Red Ed and the other by True Blue Theresa, whitewave?

Like two peas in a pod

@whitewave

I have just read a report in 'the Business insider which says that TM will not be allowed to negotiate with the 27 remaining EU countries - she will be excluded from their meetings - but only able to negotiate with Barnier.
In the rules published prior to the vote it was said that the other countries would decide the terms of UK leaving the EU and the U.K would have no input to this process. I imagine that TM was hoping that this was not true or the rules could be changed.
Tomorrow the CPS are going to announce whether or not they are going to prosecute anyone for the Election expenses problem.
I wonder how people will react to the fact that she is also talking of allowing fox hunting again.

Who cares about ideas ( if they are good ones) where they come from, are they pinched/copied and whatnot.
The energy one is a good idea, the no hospital charges are a good idea ( in principle) and so on and so forth.All Parties come up with at least a few good ideas!

Re fox hunting......a lot of people will be happy if it was restored and a lot of people would be unhappy.The usual story.

Who cares about ideas ( if they are good ones) where they come from, are they pinched/copied and whatnot

It's the reaction to them which people care about. If an idea is 'good' why would it get howls of outrage from the right wing press two years ago but smiles of approval now?

You are either being incredibly naive, roses or failing completely to see the point.

Re fox hunting......a lot of people will be happy if it was restored and a lot of people would be unhappy.The usual story.

Nothing like stating the bl**ding obvious. Such a valuable contribution to the debate...

Neither Maizie just giving my own opinion as to liking /disliking political ideas.
Of course political parties will holler about the ideas that their rivals come out with,
Then sometimes do similar things later on.Rather than naive, I am more cynical if anything.However, a good idea is always a good idea.