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Should I vote Labour Mark 11

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whitewave Fri 12-May-17 11:40:03

That's a bum, can anyone cut and paste or something the manifesto that took me blood sweat and tears to do this morning please!!!???

paddyann Tue 23-May-17 00:19:55

I wont vote labour ,I DO see pictures and videos of him leading HUGE rallies all over England SO there are obviously a lot of people who do support him...we just dont see it in the media ..just like the SNP marches and rallies we dont see them either .I'd like to see Corbyn give MaggieMayhem a run for her moneyand after todays performance by her it doesn't look as though that would be too difficult to do

GracesGranMK2 Tue 23-May-17 08:27:05

With the hiatus in the canvassing and interviews, etc., perhaps we can think of other things today too. I would find it good to have a pause and a think, so will sew most of the day I think.

Anniebach Tue 23-May-17 08:35:48

Good grief Jen, what a silly question, I would not have voted for such a person.

I did feel stupid for being so naive untill I read the article. by Joe Cox saying had made the mistake

Jalima1108 Tue 23-May-17 15:02:23

Yes, we got to the Transport Museum and two others but time ran out and feet/knees protested so we never got to the Ferens Art Gallery.
All very interesting and the bus service was good too!

yggdrasil Wed 24-May-17 09:03:39

Annie said "I just do not understand how some here can support Corbyn, claim he has principles. He wrote for a publication which stated - a good start to the peace talks, five Tories dead, this about the Brighton bombing and he invited two mrmbers if the IRA to Westminster five weeks after the bombing."

It was the publication that stated some of those things. Corbyn wrote articles for it. He did NOT write those things himself.
There are people who write articles for the Daily Mail, doesn't mean they agree with all the vituperation of the editor.

Corbyn said, we should talk to the IRA and the Nationalist terrorists. Eventually we did, and got the Good Friday Agreement. Corbyn also said, we should talk to Hamas. If Netanahu would do that, we might get somewhere in Gaza too.

If you can't tell the difference between Corbyn's principles, and May's flip-flop to gain votes, I am sorry.

Anniebach Wed 24-May-17 09:10:15

Invite the IRA to Westminster to talk only five weeks after the Brighton bombings ?

Anniebach Wed 24-May-17 09:33:15

And why did he say - with hindsight calling Hamas his friends was a mistake?

GracesGranMK2 Wed 24-May-17 10:07:42

I seem to have other things to think about today than ABs anti-Corbyn hate rantings that never stop so I will not be on this thread.

Anniebach Wed 24-May-17 10:17:53

Hate? rather dramatic and soooooo over the top .

So criticising May, Farron, Sturgeon is political opinion

But criticising Corbyn is a hate rant

grin

GracesGranMK2 Wed 24-May-17 10:19:08

Well it has been a months long rant and it is full of hate for the man so what would you call it?

Anniebach Wed 24-May-17 10:31:08

Hate? Rubbish, no different to opinions on other leaders, I do not rant, I post my opinion on the man. How come the fact I think he is a hypocrite is different to criticism of May?

GracesGranMK2 Wed 24-May-17 10:42:47

This is the difference be what you believe you are saying then AB and what is being heard. You seem to take little care over whether you insult the man or criticise his thinking and past actions and I cannot remember when you have made one single balanced comment and no one is all bad or all good.

Anyway, I have better things to do than encourage you to attack one person for all the worlds ills any further.

Have a good day AB.

Elegran Wed 24-May-17 11:41:16

Is that any different from what people have been saying about many other politicians?

Anniebach Wed 24-May-17 11:57:24

All I have said of Corbyn is true, not what I believe to be true.

Just another snipe from GG who then suddenly decides she has busy,busy day so leaves

Anniebach Wed 24-May-17 11:59:43

Corbynites here critcised May for what she did or didn't do when Home Secretary - past actions yes?

But I must not criticise Corbyn for past actions yes?

angelab Wed 24-May-17 12:51:56

"Get behind a man without principles? Not for me, I have principles" and "All I have said of Corbyn is true", anniebach

Not only does this not sound like the statement of a Labour supporter to me, it's contradictory.

Anniebach Wed 24-May-17 13:15:33

Then you are not able to seperate the Labour Party from the leader , he is the leader he is not the party.

What of the labour MP's who have said they will not work in his shadow cabinet, the labour MP's who do not have his name on their election fliers?

For you Angelab, they are not labour supporters ?

rosesarered Wed 24-May-17 13:20:13

There are plenty of rants about TMay!
We need a bit of balance on here, so what if ab says what she pleases......everybody else seems to.

Anniebach Wed 24-May-17 13:23:13

Surely roses not because I critcise Corbyn?

So if I criticise the Arch Bishop of Wales I am not a Christian ?

rosesarered Wed 24-May-17 13:24:42

Good anology.grin

Anniebach Wed 24-May-17 13:26:58

I quote McDonald when he spoke out about the majority of labour MP's

"They are f*****g losers " followed the next day with i am a naughty boy when asked about his foul language

rosesarered Wed 24-May-17 13:30:36

I always think McDonnell will be a nasty bit of work when he is out of the spotlight.

Anniebach Wed 24-May-17 13:55:16

His goal is to become leader of the Labour Party

angelab Wed 24-May-17 14:00:14

Has he said that, Annie, or is it an opinion? (It's stated as if it's a fact...)

Anniebach Wed 24-May-17 14:14:37

Well he tried twice to get support from MP's to stand as leader but failed. He then campaigned for votes for Abbott to stand, then he campaigned for votes for Corbyn to stand . Thus ensuring if they were to be elected leader he would be shadow chancellor

Think - Gladstone. Churchill. Wilson. Callaghan. Major. Brown, possibly more, All chancellors or shadow chancellors , all became PM