A Labour Government.

Of course it won't be a land of milk and honey, whoever wins the GE, only Corbyn
Is painting it as such, but I have my doubts that he will actually be able to fund it all ( or much if it) and do we really need all those things nationalised.
Also, if we have so much money to be repaid as a country, do we at this time really want to hugely borrow yet more?
The biggest thing IMHO is that his own MP's don't have any faith in him.

I'm away with Intermittent internet roses. My point was in response to the general impression that you believe the conservatives are a safer bet for the country than. Labour government. Apologies if the milk and honey reference irritated, I'm reflecting on 45 years working with the disadvanted in all categories. My experience at work and in my personal life tells me that the Labour Party, whilst never perfect, has always led to improvements in public services. Yes, I know the aren't perfect but neither are the private sector, profit making services that have taken their place

Why does it cost anything to renationalise the railways. Wait until the franchises run out and letthe state take over.

MawBroon he seems to have achieved pop star status in some quarters, mainly with the young who have not lived through some of the years of Labour-inflicted misery. All the whooping and cheering when he appears is very odd.

I am not saying that there was no Tory-inflicted misery either. Any party in power for too long becomes complacent and often more extreme.

I am envious of people who have absolute faith in the leader and party of their choice; they do not have the dilemma that many of us are going through at the moment.

Jen, how often is a transport minister needed to fight for workers rights? Nothing wrong with being a solicitor but not a qualification needed to be a good MP

Please stop posting lies, I support the Labour Party, like the majority of labour MP's I do not support the militant leader or his cronies , you have faith in Abbott as Home Secretary , I do not, you have faith in MacDonald, I do not,you believe and trust Corbyn, I do not.

Corbyn assured us yesterday that there would be no change in his appointments apart from the fact that there are more people in the Shadow Cabinet than in the Cabinet itself.
So - vote for Corbyn, get McDonnell, Abbott and Thornberry.
That is very offputting to me.

I myself would not pay anything to take back what belonged to us in the first place, with regard to the railways, waster, and everything else. But maybe they feel that would be a step too far. Maybe it is to do with international law.

Rosesarered: the right-wing mps don't like him because he wants to change their cosy links with big business. He is uncorruptible which is why the whole of the right, media, business, banks, etc, don't likehim. It'sa very unusual situation! He is satisfied with what he has and so can't be bought.

I don't know if this is true; it was just one comment from someone on facebook but the plp wanted to oust him prior to the referendum because they realised that, like other left wing politicians before him, he was against the EU because he regarded it as undemocratic.Judging by his luke warm support of remain during the weeks prior to the vote it does seem plausible.I, too, was furious that Labour voters didn't quite know where they stood voting wise and held Corbyn responsible for the eventual result. However, I now feel that I am cutting off my nose to spite my face if I don't vote Labour as per usual because the person and party I should be blaming is/are Cameron and the Conservatives who broke many election pledges but then carried through the most catastrophic one of all to appease their back benchers.Given that, when his counterparts were homing their political skills in Oxbridge debating societies he was abroad with VSO it's no wonder it took him a while to settle into the role of party leader. The more I see of the things that this Conservative party have in store for us over the next few years the more determined I am that they will not be allowed to do it. I've just read of the Chancellors financial interest in care homes so the dementia tax would be of great benefit to him.I'm currently in a dream world of having a Labour/LibDem/SNP coalition that is liberal, forward thinking, caring of the environment and of every member of society. I know the bubble will probably have burst by next week but at least it's a brief respite from the horrors of the past 12 months.For those people worried about Corbyn's left wing views I am reassured that, for him democracy is paramount. Although the S.O. is not prepared to forgive Corbyn for brexit everyone in my family are firmly behind Corbyn; even my son who usually has no interest in politics.My daughter, who is a teacher says she will probably not have a job soon if the Conservatives get elected. Whatever the result of the election is, it's obvious that there are a lot of people who have socialist values. And, if, as is quite likely there is a breakaway centre party formed they must realise that a lot of people still have those sort of values.

I wish people would get over the myth that a national economy is like a household budget.

Example:

The government gives everybody who is eligible vouchers to pay for childcare.

There are two immediate effects:

1 More childcare jobs arecreated
2 More parents are enabled to return to work.

Both the above will pay income tax and NICs, so some money is returned to the Treasury almost immediately.

The childcare workers and the parents will spend their money on goods and services. VAT and/or tax is charged on those goods and services, so even more money is returned to the Treasury.

Moreover, the goods and services employ even more people, who pay taxes on their incomes and the goods and services they buy. And so it goes on...

Nearly all money paid in income is eventually returned to the Treasury in one form or other, so the government is able to recoup the money it first issued in childcare vouchers.

Some people seem to have an idea that the Chancellor sits in his counting house doling out piles of money to various people and that it will eventually run out. It doesn't work like that. The UK, as an issuer of a sovereign currency, can't possibly go bankrupt.

And, if, as is quite likely there is a breakaway centre party formed they must realise that a lot of people still have those sort of values.
We can live in hope but in the meantime?

My head is hurting, I'm off to do some cooking.
Sorry to be frivolous but I can feel my anxiety levels rising. Chopping onions, veg etc may help.

In what way is Corbyn militant?

Who is McDonald? Never heard of him.

No, it can print money until it becomes worthless, as some countries do/have done.

Jalima yes, chopping can be good!
If a breakaway party formed from all the MP's who don't support Corbyn ,and others maybe a few runaways from the Lib Dems and Conservatives as well, that would be great for the next GE

Celia, you hsve proof the likes of .yvette Cooper, Ben .bradshaw, the Eagle sisters, Hilary Benn and many more have cosy links with big businesses? This is what you claim so proof please.

skwawkbox.org/2017/06/03/theresa-may-breaks-law-in-bbcqt-special-ge17/

Theresa May told a lie about Diane Abbott yesterday in the QT from York.
It actually broke election law. Can't wait to see the retraction.

I have never thought of or wanted a breakaway party but now I do, the Labour Party that was is now controlled by Millitants and will be so now, the true Labour Party is finished

Anniebach: I was thinking of the likes of Geoffrey Robinson and Margaret Hodge, though the bulk of 'corporate' Labour is in the house of Lords now. My main dislike of Ben bradshaw, who is my mp, is that he voted for privatising the health service and for the Iraq war. The group of mps you mention don't realise that things have changed. The Labour Party is no longer the 'Tory lite' party it was under Blair. Many of us in Exeter have written to Ben Bradshaw telling him that we are voting Labour in spite of him because we want to see Jeremy Corbyn lead the country and asking him to support his elected leader, but sadly, he doesn't even reply.

Thank you Celia, but Ben did not vote to privatise the NHS, in fact he has always voted for restricting the provision of services to private patients, seems I know far more of your MP than you do. Corbyn mania has gripped you perhaps ?

Sorry Celia I forgot, Ben has told his constituency of his views on Labour Party and on Corbyn, I read his letter which was also published in your local paper . Who you vote for has nothing to do with me but I am sure you can accept I cannot remain silent when lies are told of a good , caring man.

For those who haven't been out to buy their Guardain today.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/ng-interactive/2017/jun/02/the-guardian-view-on-our-vote-its-labour

A question for those of you who have voiced your dislike of TB; which party did you vote for in the GE when he was Labour Leader and then PM?

I have always voted Labour but have never been a Blair basher. Not always happy with things that I disagreed with but he did a lot of good which has been overshadowed by Iraq. Having said that, I don't vote labour 'blind' and almost voted Conservative last time because of the promise to cap nursing home fees [which was then put back] and also a promise regarding nursery fees [again, never happened]. And I was, till recently, going to vote LibDem to thank them for supporting me as a remainer.One of the main differences with Conservative voters and Labour voters/party members [imo] is that Conservatives are very rarely critical of whatever their party does whereas Labour people will constantly question, debate, argue amongst themselves if they disagree with policies etc.

I'm with Tegan in believing the Blair government did a lot of good that was overshadowed by Iraq. I was one of the thousands who wrote to Blair, to my MP and marched against the war. The communities I worked and lived in benefitted hugely from the improvements made by the labour government.

I can forgive the libdems for the tuition fee nonsense. I can't forgive or forget their support for the evil bedroom tax. Odd that once out of coalition, the libdems found their conscience about that

We never hear Labour supporters questioning, arguing or debating among themselves about Labour policies on GN!