Only labour voters welcome

How can one quote Corbyn and admire him and not be far left? He is far more a communist than a socialist

Rigby you are wasted on here, you should be a diplomat.
with all due respect for the member's qualities and entitlement to her political opinions harrigran, diplomacy was not the word which sprang to MY mind.

Very funny though!! The Trump style of diplomacy comes to mind
Rigby have you been taking inspiration from POTUS

Elegran Mon 29-May-17 10:20:07
That is just it - Matthew Ch. 12 v 30

Have to agree Annie, not so much 'reds under the bed' more like up there sitting on your chest.

annie, you are so correct when you say that some of us are politically homeless! I too am feeling aghast at the ineptitude of the Conservatives mishandling of this election campaign! My ten year old grandson could have handled it better!! I begin to think both the major parties are as batty as each other!! After D.C., I had hoped for, and thought we would get a more left of centre conservatism; now I'm not so sure!! I shall vote for them simply because the other side imo is unrealistic bordering on dangerous. What a position to be in?!!

Niggly, I am at a lost, think I should changed my name from Anniebach to Orphan Annie ?

I have lost some sleep over all this and shed a few tears too, I may not vote which will make me feel guilty. Labour has no chance here and for the first time I am relieved , I couldn't vote for Corbyn , I want to vote for the Labour Party that once was, not this rabble of Corbyn,McDonald , and momentum .

So true harrigran, how anyone can deny thst lot are not trots is a mystery , I feel so sorry for the majority of Labour MP's who are genuinely socialist

Not to vote would make me feel guilty too that's why despite being so unsure, I voted in the referendum! I've never not voted in a GE, but have to confess that year's ago I have been known not to vote in local ones, I do now! I shall be glad when it's over!!?!!

Niggly, I was told and I told my daughters and granddaughters - who you vote for is nothing to do with me, what matters is you do vote and now I do not want to,

The spectrum of political opinion is very wide but anyone who does not have really 'right' views is branded a Leftie - which in many cases is totally wrong. I am really more left of centre than anything else and have voted for each party at various times of my life - for instance when the Labour Party was so dar left it bordered. Russia I could not possibly vote for them. Then when the Tories go too far right that knocks them out for a bit.
I am genuinely interested in why the Tory voters here are so adamant their way is the right one - you seem to have no doubts at all which intrigues me.
This election is genuinely a hard one for many to decide which way to vote as no Leader or party is ideal - just some seeming less bad than others.

Welshwife there are some left wing posters with no doubts at all, come to that.
There will always be some with no doubt, some with a bit of doubt, and some floating voters who decide at the last minute.
I would agree with you that this GE is a hard one for many to decide which way to vote, especially for Labour voters.

I didn't say that my name was 'wrong' just that you manage to get it into every other post.

Are you completely loosing it RAR? Your name occurs in a reply to your post - just as everyone else's does. No one comes on and suddenly puts your name in random posts. If it is occurring often presumably you have posted often. I don't know you and, on here, I don't care for what I know so why would I make a point of using your name for no reason. You are either supremely arrogant or paranoid.

Annie the Labour Party has always accommodated a wide range of beliefs and has fluctuated over the years. When you joined over 50 years ago its policies were far more left wing than those proposed today. When Tony Blair moved to the right and abolished Clause 4 many felt let down but were prepared to compromise. It is such a pity that you don't feel able to do so and persist in undermining the party you profess to care for. As for voting, if you don't believe in Labour don't vote for them. There are other parties. Many of us defected to the Lib Dems or the Greens when the Labour Party took us to war and became too right wing. But we voted and didn't moan about it. No party is a perfect fit and things change.

It is 'occurring often' as you seem quite unable to post anything at all which does not include a personal attack. It says a great deal about you.

Excellent post, trisher.

Trisher, do not tell me what to think and how to vote, and I found your post a personal insult. Now accept this, Corbyn is a liar, a hypocrite and is determined to end the Labour party and bring in a communist party. And I do not need sermons from you on the Labour Party so find some manners and stop being so bloody bossy and ha know it all ok?

I didn't tell you what to think or how to vote Annie I simply said that you should. And that the Labour Party has a long history of compromise which some of us have done in the past, but which you seem unwilling to do. I still don't understand how the party is now 'communist' last time I looked no-one had proposed bringing back Clause 4 which was certainly a key part of the party you joined.

I am reproducing a letter from Saturday's DT, I make no comment on the views expressed.

Sir,

Their is a simple explanation for the phenomenon Mr Malia observes.

Rightists think Leftists are misguided; but Leftists, convinced of their intellectual and moral superiority, believe that Rightists are evil.
Patrick Jordan, Glasgow.

well said Trisher the Labour party was much more left wing 50 years ago at that time they called the SNP Tartan Tories,now the SNP ismore left leaning than they are...I dont understand why some people cant see labour is just off centre towards left I grew up in a family where Labour was the party of choice and the Red Flag was sung with gusto ....dont see that happening nowadays

And did I asked for your advice on how to vote trisher? No I did not ,

pheonix that maybe because the Tories appesr to have no morals ....how else can you explain them rewarding the rich and punishing the poor...it wasn't the nurses,or labourers or shopworkers etc etc etc who casued the crash but its them who are paying for it NOT the rich supporters of the tory party ...whose wealth has increased year on year with the help of the party ...who have mismanaged the economy to the extent of more than doubling the debt they inherited from the previous government...Why do the tory supporters on here have no explanation about where all THAT money has gone ?

paddyann hopefully I made it clear that I was merely reproducing the letter, I make absolutely no comment on it's content.

Others, of course are perfectly free to do so.

I have my own political opinions, but on this occasion prefer not to put them on here.

I will stick to cats, (not literally, that would be both cruel and inconvenient) blisters and other trivial topics until the majority of political comment subsides.

It's the politics forum, phoenix!

Phoenix ?

I am so cross, I didn't know untill two posters informed me , Harold Wilson isn't leader of the Labour Party ,me when did this happen?