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tonight's tv debate

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varian Wed 31-May-17 20:04:56

Are you watching tonight's tv debate?

There is the leader of the Liberal Democrats, Tim Farron, leader of the Labour party, Jeremy Corbyn, leader of the Greens, Caroline Lucas, leader of Plaid Cymru, Leanne Wood, deputy leader of SNP, Angus Robertson, leader of UKIP, Paul Nuttall and someone called Amber Rudd, who seems to be standing in for the leader of the Tories.

What do you make of it?

Anniebach Thu 01-Jun-17 08:07:07

I have to use sub titles when dramas from the north are on tv, I don't understand the accents, I certaintly don't ridicule people because of their accents and certaintly wouldn't because of a speech impediment.

Hypocrisy, bang away here every day about disabled suffering and chikdren not being educated yet mock a speech impediment

The new caring Corbyn party

LadyGracie Thu 01-Jun-17 08:50:33

I can't pronounce my r's either and find it very embarrassing when someone points it out, even at the age of 66!

How anyone can say this was a good debate is as obviously 'unbiased' as the BBC and its specially picked audience.

Anniebach Thu 01-Jun-17 09:04:40

It was not a good debate, and as for the Royal walk about by Corbyn when he left the building, cringe.

Lazigirl Thu 01-Jun-17 09:23:29

Whether you thought it was a good debate or not seems very much to depend on what side you supported as far as I can see listening to political commentary. It did get a bit shouty at times because there were 7 participants. Yes rosesarered am shocked, had a sheltered upbringing. grin

varian Thu 01-Jun-17 09:40:51

I feel sorry for Amber Rudd. Her fathef died on Monday. A caring boss would have told her to take the rest of the week off and volunteered to step in herslf. Instead the poor woman was left trying to defend her boss's dreadful record whilst her boss hid somewhere.

rosesarered Thu 01-Jun-17 09:47:42

Lazigirl grin
Varian this is just speculation on your part as we can't know what conversation went on between May and Rudd, so you are using the man's death as a stick to beat May with.Cheap shot indeed.

durhamjen Thu 01-Jun-17 09:51:37

Come off it, roses. Most people get a week off when a close relative dies.
May would have been given a lot more kudos if she had done that instead of allowing Rudd to go on and be laughed at.

(Farron wins the inaugural Snap burn emoji award for biggest audience laughter of the night. Rudd came second, with the self-inflicted: “I would say, judge us on our record.”)
From the Guardian, being a Guardian reading leftie.

Anniebach Thu 01-Jun-17 09:55:23

It was reported Amber Rudd chose to take part after May said someone else could take her place .

How nasty this election is, here on one thread we have a bereavement used to attack May and a speech impediment mocked.

What was it Corbyn saud when he became leader - he wanted a different style of politics, he succeeded. Aggression, bullying, mockery

Ana Thu 01-Jun-17 09:56:16

Amber Rudd's elderly father died on Monday. Mrs May told her that another cabinet member would stand in but Amber chose to carry on. So I imagine her diction is secondary consideration.

Linnieg yesterday.

rosesarered Thu 01-Jun-17 09:59:14

You would know about cheap shots durhamjen with your criticism of Rudd having a speech impediment.
I repeat, we cannot know the situation,it is likely, given Rudd's senior position in the Cabinet and with a GE a week away that she is taking little time off.
Some people are happier dealing with things by working.

Anniebach Thu 01-Jun-17 10:01:28

Not if you are an upper class northerner and political expert Ana , a speech impediment is a step too far . Best stick to * f*****g losers, that was acceptable

Anniebach Thu 01-Jun-17 10:04:33

Come off it Jen, you were nasty to mention her speech impediment so let's not have the understanding for death of her father. .

durhamjen Thu 01-Jun-17 10:15:21

I didn't say it was a speech impediment. Everyone else did.
I just mentioned that she did not pronounce her 'r's properly.

It's actually called the Winchester 'r', after Winchester College.
No doubt all those people on here who have/ have had a child at Winchester College will jump on me and say that their child/gandchild doesn't speak like that.
They don't all have to.

Annie, you really ought not to transfer your dislike of Corbyn onto me, and say things that are not true.
I presume you are calling me an upperclass northerner?
Not many upperclass people have had free school meals and clothing vouchers to buy uniform.

rosesarered Thu 01-Jun-17 10:17:34

We will be doing the Four Yorkshireman sketch next !

rosesarered Thu 01-Jun-17 10:19:35

Shall I start off? 'Aye, I had the free meals and token's an all, but I had to walk five miles to school with bare feet and clogs'.........

whitewave Thu 01-Jun-17 10:20:08

Rudd is in mourning - and yet the vanity of Maybot who was not prepared to face the great unwashed meant that she was prepared to see her collegue do her dirty work for her. Beggers belief

rosesarered Thu 01-Jun-17 10:21:15

And as I really am from Yorkshire, and did really have the free meals and clothes tokens, I think it exempts me from accusations of posh Southerner.

Ana Thu 01-Jun-17 10:23:03

Didn't you read the previous posts whitewave? May offered to put someone else in Rudd's place but Rudd wanted to go ahead.

merlotgran Thu 01-Jun-17 10:25:15

Great unwashed? Cambridge?

Wash your mouth out grin

whitewave Thu 01-Jun-17 10:25:59

Oh and that makes it better ot believable.

Clearly Maybot is not someone who is ready to stand up and be counted when the faced with a difficult task.

Smileless2012 Thu 01-Jun-17 10:42:04

Well I'm a southerner, not a posh one though, at least I don't think sohmm. I had an ordinary primary school and secondary school education and I also sound like Johnathan Woss, well according to my brother who still takes the mickey out of me and still manages to make meblush.

Anniebach Thu 01-Jun-17 10:43:26

Both May and Corbyn were not tsking part. Corbyn chsnged his mind lunch time, if she had then turned up you corbynites would have been crowing that he went because the mighty one had told her to .

Smileless2012 Thu 01-Jun-17 10:58:01

Anniebachgrin I can't help but wonder if the reason Corbyn changed his mind was because he knew TM wouldn't be there and he felt less threatened by her absence.

Anniebach Thu 01-Jun-17 11:06:07

Possibly Smileless and a crafty, sly move too. His kinder type of politics ?

nigglynellie Thu 01-Jun-17 11:28:32

Why is it only Theresa May who has been singled out for derision for sending her side kick? Where was Nicola Sturgeon? She also sent her side kick, but curiously no sneers for her! Why aren't we surprised?!! It was, without doubt the most biased unpleasant debate ever witnessed, just horrible, and clearly for some continuing here this morning. Theresa May did offer to substitute Amber Rudd, and to imply differently is just not true, but who cares about that! Let's hope it backfires onto Labour big time exposing them in their true colours, and Tim Farron for the idiot he clearly is.