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Rigby46 Sat 03-Jun-17 17:59:38

My prediction( not hope) is for TM to have about a 40/50 overall majority. I reserve the right to change this prediction up to the announcement of the exit poll. Anybody else have a prediction?

durhamjen Mon 05-Jun-17 19:40:55

I think you need to read a bit more selectively, dizzygran.
On a different thread, daphne has put a photo showing that every vote on terrorism made by Corbyn was either the same for May, or she did not vote.

What's wrong with Labour's plan to keep you safer?

dizzygran Mon 05-Jun-17 21:01:36

Can you remember Tony Blair's campaign - education, education, education. It didn't happen. Where will the money come from to keep all of Corbyn's pledges.

Gaggi3 Mon 05-Jun-17 21:37:34

The BBC Labour- biased? I don't think so.

Theoddbird Mon 05-Jun-17 22:00:09

The Conservatives will win smile

daphnedill Mon 05-Jun-17 22:20:50

I disagree with you dizzygran. I was teaching full-time in 1997 and I certainly noticed the difference when Labour came to power.

I'm getting a bit fed up with repeating myself, but not only is the Labour manifesto costed (unlike the Conservative one), but please look at the links I've already posted about Keynes and Modern Monetary Theory and the letter from 149 economists, which was published in the Guardian. The money is there, but the will isn't. The Conservatives are ideologically committed to a small state, which is the only reason we have austerity (unless one happens to be very wealthy).

daphnedill Mon 05-Jun-17 22:25:24

Yes, the Conservatives will win. I've just come back from a hustings. The Conservative candidate avoided all the issues and came out with anodyne soundbites. Only the Ukip candidate was worse. Unfortunately, this is a super-safe Conservative seat, so somebody who doesn't know the area and has already said that she will live in London during the week (although we're only 35 miles away from Westminster and many commuters do the journey every day) has a job for life.

I despair!

daphnedill Mon 05-Jun-17 22:26:44

PS. She denied that the number of police officers had been cut since 2010.

durhamjen Mon 05-Jun-17 22:34:01

www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/05/jeremy-corbyn-confident-of-winning-despite-pms-utterly-ridiculous-claims-election-labour-may

Nandalot Mon 05-Jun-17 22:37:04

Yes, I was teaching then too, and provision did improve.
I think the Conservatives will get in with a comfortable majority. They have a solid voting base who will turn out especially with all the polls showing Labour on the rise. This will motivate them. Also the press is so dominated by right wing owners. I hope I am wrong.

durhamjen Mon 05-Jun-17 22:41:28

www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2017/jun/02/tactical-voting-guide-how-to-make-your-vote-count-in-the-2017-election

I love option three.

charjoy Mon 05-Jun-17 22:55:23

It must be Teresa May with a good majority. If Corbyn gets in the country will go to the dogs. Even Alan Sugar who has always voted Labour says he is going to vote conservative this time. Corbyn hands out lots of sweeties but they have to be paid for and it will be you and me that will be paying. The unions will take over and the country will come to a standstill. Give Teresa May the vote if only to get us through Brexit. She has a mammoth task ahead of her but she will get a much better deal with the EU than Jeremy Corbyn.

MaizieD Mon 05-Jun-17 23:04:04

Corbyn hands out lots of sweeties but they have to be paid for and it will be you and me that will be paying.

Oh dear. I do wish people had a grasp of basic economics.

adaunas Tue 06-Jun-17 10:47:27

MaizieD I do and we will be paying.

Anya Tue 06-Jun-17 10:54:42

Obviously some haven't actually read the manifestos. One is actually costed, the other is not.

Maizie I'm beginning to rethink universal suffers get ????

Anya Tue 06-Jun-17 10:58:58

That was probably too cryptic.......

Q1. Which manifesto is fully costed?
A. Labour. B. Conservative C. Both D. Neither

Q2. What is suffrage (not suffers get!) ?
A. The right to vote. B. A type of surf board. C. A member of the Brassica family
D. Pain

varian Tue 06-Jun-17 11:19:49

The Liberal Democrat manifesto has been fully costed and judged to be the best by The Economist magazine.

I predict that this will not be enough to ensure the LibDems win, there are not enough economically literate voters.

It is outrageous that the nasty party is so sure of a win they didn't even bother to cost their manifesto, but we know who will end up paying for it -it won't be the bankers or billionaire tax exile newspaper proprietors.

whitewave Tue 06-Jun-17 12:53:34

The more I think about the next 5 years the more it seems to me that it would be sensible for the Tories take the fallout, as there is no way that Brexit will be a roaring success rather the biggest car crash ever, and I'm not sure that any other political party should be forced to deal with something of the Tories making.

Once the economy has tanked as it surely will, the NHS and education system is ruined, will ensure that the Tories are out for a generation at least.

angelab Tue 06-Jun-17 13:51:54

This might be a useful guide to manifestos:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39955886

MaizieD Tue 06-Jun-17 18:13:10

MaizieD I do and we will be paying.

We will be paying whoever wins but in the case of Labour we will be paying for money to be circulated in the economy; for better wages, better NHS & Education, better security and increased business activity.

In the case of the tories we'll be paying for our money to be spirited out of the country into tax havens, benefitting no-one but the already wealthy.

I know which I prefer.

charjoy Tue 06-Jun-17 22:00:32

Wealth creates jobs. Don't be envious. Give Teresa May a chance. She will help the poor and needy - she has a heart.

She doesn't idolize the IRA. Remember, many of our soldiers lost their lives in Ireland - Jeremy Corbyn went along with the IRA terrorist activities. A leopard doesn't change its spots!- Well, only when there's a chance of being a prime minister!

durhamjen Tue 06-Jun-17 22:05:53

What are you on, charjoy? Whatever it is, I don't want any if it gives you such illusions.

durhamjen Tue 06-Jun-17 22:07:38

www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/06/theresa-may-rip-up-human-rights-laws-impede-new-terror-legislation

You prefer this, do you, charjoy, someone who wants to get rid of all our human rights, rights that have been fought for over generations?

daphnedill Tue 06-Jun-17 22:09:37

It's also true that jobs create wealth.

durhamjen Tue 06-Jun-17 22:12:01

You've been listening to the wrong people about the IRA, too. May voted against anti-terror legislation, although you wouldn't think so now.

kittysjones.wordpress.com/2017/06/06/theresa-may-voted-against-anti-terror-legislation-jeremy-corbyn-signed-a-motion-that-condemned-ira-violence-in-1994/

durhamjen Tue 06-Jun-17 22:41:52

I predict that Tories will win in these seats, where postal votes have gone missing.

voxpoliticalonline.com/2017/06/06/who-expected-postal-votes-to-go-missing-if-it-seemed-the-tories-were-likely-to-lose/

The company responsible is owned by Peter Lilley. Remember him, ex-Tory MP?