London.....Incidents at London Bridge, Borough Market and Vauxhall.

Yes I agree but it is nonpolitical

WW

I presume you watched the Daily Politics programme I mention to make statements about it, either that or you are as usual simply posturing .

What points did Lord Carlisle or Nazir Afzal raise that makes you imply their comments were of a political nature , impossible for it not to be?

If a lot of radicalisation takes place in prisons, wont longer sentences just give the more time to influence or be influenced by others.

The question you have to ask pogs is - is what they are postulating acceptable too all ideaologies and political stances. The answer is no. Therefore it is political. That is not saying that their points are invalid or wrong. It is just a fact.

WW

You didn't watch it did you!

You are making personal comments that are not related to my post.

I will ask again. What points did Lord Carlisle or Nazir Afzal raise that makes you imply their comments were of a political nature , impossible for it not to be?

I shall tell you what I had for my lunch today. It was a lovely ham sandwich, very tasty and nutritious, with sliced tomato. I would recommend it!

Oh! sorry, that was a politicial statement! Recommending a ham sandwich as a tasty and nutritious lunch would not be acceptable to ideologies like vegetarianism or veganism, and definitely not to the Jewish community. Slap my risk for mentioning it.

My wrist! Though it would be a risk to recommend it to some closed minds of my acquaintance.

I didn't have to listen to it!! That is the point. What I am arguing is that all arguments, statements, ideological stances etc are political. That is not necessarily a pejorative remark it is simply a fact.

Where did you read/hear that?

Elegran
I was reading a piece by Nazir Afzal this morning, he's not very complimentary about Imams, not that they might be spouting hate but that they are completely out of touch with young Muslim men.

So abhorrence of ham is a political stance, not evidence of a possible religious affiliation? That is not to say, however, that it is part of a party political stance in favour of one or other of the two parties currently battling it out for a power at Westminster, which is what almost all the political barneys debates on GN are about at the moment.

Most ordinary people also regard "political" as referring to party politics.

Perhaps whitewave's just overwhelmed by all the political stuff she's been immersing herself in recently...

It's a pity that people aren't more discerning in their use of 'political'and 'party political'

Nothing is acceptable to all ideologies and political stances, that's why a variety of those things exist.

Elegran I haven't a clue what you're on about

rigby oh yes I should have made it clear that I wasn't talking Party political.

ww absolutely not - your post was quite quite clear. The problem is that many people read the word 'political' and think it means 'party political'

I know.

Something going on in Paris

'gunshots at Notre Dame cathedral'

"Reports suggest a man attacked a police officer with a hammer and was later shot"

He may just be a mad man

Oh dear - faith schools - they are so obviously the wrong way to go, but it looks as if the government are set on more faith "free" schools. It seems totally mad to me. I cannot imagine why they are so set on this.

Everything they touch seems to have an air of lunacy about it

I'm evidently not ordinary.