The result

The young are clearly enthused and this may well prove to be the start of a trend which leads to a Corbyn govt. at some stage. But that is far from clear right now. All that Labour has done for the moment is to stop the rot. Fair play to them, but they have a long way to go. Certainly, next time they won't be helped by such a suicidal Tory campaign, and the expected boundary changes will favour the tories. It's hard to call anything these days but it looks to me as though we might be looking at hung Parliaments as the most likely result of any GE for a while.

Time for PR, Fitzy.

Mazie, that might be where we end up. But we still end up with difficult compromises.

WE might indeed end up with compromises, but at least we'll feel that we've been 'heard'. My vote hasn't counted in a single General Election I've ever voted in (since 1971) because the constituencies I've lived in have always been safe seats for a party I don't vote for. I keep doggedly turning up because a vote must be used. But it would be nice to feel that it did count at some time.

I don't fear compromises because they limit extremism and are more likely to satisfy the greatest number of people. I also think that if people have a greater feeling of 'ownership' of a result it lessens divisiveness and polarisation of views.

Consider the findings of the Prince’s Trust in its annual Youth Index. The overall wellbeing of young people, it has announced, is lower now than at any point since it launched the index eight years ago. Over a quarter of young people report feeling a lack of control over their lives; over a third feel they will have a “worse standard of living than their parents”; 42% feel that “traditional goals” such as owning a home, or getting a steady job are “unrealistic”. The young will pay for political developments they overwhelmingly did not vote for: nearly six out of 10 say that recent political events and the current economic climate make them feel anxious for their future.

Another general election in October?

Mazie I was just trying to find a link which gave all the voting percentages to see where we would be if we had PR but can only find the Tory/labour figures. Would be interesting to see.

BBC news wrbsite gives them all, but Cindersdad has done the work for us already! On a new thread.

www.google.co.uk/amp/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/dup-hung-parliament-results-policies-manifesto-abortion-gay-marriage-climate-change-who-are-they-a7781656.html%3Famp

These are the folk in the DUP who will be holding us to ransom - the creationist stuff is the worst - unbelievable!

Let us hope that Ruth Davidson will use her 12 MPs to do what they can to counter this - she has already expressed strong views about the DUP link. I am however unclear as to how much clout the Scottish MPs have over laws that specifically apply to England - I know some new rules were under discussion but I am not sure where this is at present.

They are not supposed to be able to vote on laws that only apply to/effect England but somehow still managed to vote on the English Sunday trading laws and blocked the very extended laws in England that they "enjoy" in Scotland so not sure how it works at all.

Has this become another England is the UK thread?

I want to add my voice to the protests. I have never voted for anything the DUP stands for and never would. To think that this country could be held to account by such people is surely the worst of all possible worlds. I would not have wished for yet another election, but that would be preferable in my view to the tail wagging the dog; especially this particular group of ultra right wing recessionists. Heaven help us!

I hope not Anniebach my post was in response to Luckygirl I am not sure how it all works to be honest.

I might add that I do hope that this election has made Nicola Sturgeon realize that Scotland do not want independence from the rest of the UK and certainly don't want another referendum. A clear message that we really are, all of us, better together. Happy days.

Gilly, it was luckgirl's post I was referring to, - they are holding us to ransom.

Every MP has been elected by 'us' . Some English need to remember the three other countries with England make up the UK

Tories Leap Into the Unpopularity Abyss

The DUP are corrupt, homophobic, racist and above all religious bigots of the worst kind. The nastiest people in politics. The utterly discredited Theresa May refuses to resign and intends to continue to rule over us with the support of this ugly faction.

This is a petition "Stop the DUP & TORIES forming a Minority Government!"

I am not sure if it is the only one.

Ruth Davidson is engaged to be married and is gay. Should she allow this to affect the politics of her party?

I would jolly well hope so if her party was willing to team up with such prehistoric bigoted views.

Think of the suffering their attitudes cause.

I don't think you will persuade right-wingers whitewave. Unfortunately there are still those in this country whose view chimes with the DUP and, of course, they should be able to send to parliament people to represent the proportion of the numbers that feel that way. I think this would be a very low number and we would have to hear their bigoted views and others, in larger numbers, would ensure their extremism was not thrust on this country.

May has decided that those with these views will have a controlling vote on the leadership of this country. That is entirely unacceptable.

Isn't there a march today?

Whitewave, you have championed Corbyn for standing by his beliefs even to supporting the IRA, what is the difference , the DUP have their beliefs, I don't agree with their beliefs .

Can there be anything more humiliating than having to apologise to your colleagues for putting your party, and of course the electorate, in the position of relying on the DUP to help you out of the mire you've created through sheer pig-headedness? Whilst she's in apologetic mood she might apologise to the entire electorate.

Hold in your head the image in Belfast posted by Penstemon. I've been there and can tell you the images on the walls of the city are chilling. The hatred is still just below the surface. The peace wire is still visible in parts of the city.

May coined the term 'coalition of chaos'; I wonder what she'd call this? I hope she doesn't sleep at night.

Which country GG? The DUP MP's live in the same a country as you. Let's not have another little englander rant please .

annie I'm supporting the Labour Party. Corbyn is the leader

Last time I looked England was a country, Wales was a country Scotland was a country and NI a separate entity from Ireland as a whole.