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Who will replace May?

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Rigby46 Fri 09-Jun-17 06:34:38

She can't possibly stay - she's fatally wounded. Boris, Hammond and DD must be plotting as I post. Rudd a no-no, too close to her.

GracesGranMK2 Sun 11-Jun-17 11:06:12

Anna Soubry has always made sensible comments about Brexit (GN speak for - I like what she says because it agrees with my viewsgrin).

Unfortunately she was followed by Dominic Raab who seems to be bidding for a place in the cabinet to sustain the far-right view of Brexit.

durhamjen Sun 11-Jun-17 11:09:10

Soubry is not on this list.

durhamjen Sun 11-Jun-17 11:10:03

Survation poll for the DM.

daphnedill Sun 11-Jun-17 11:12:05

From a Conservative point of view, I suspect Anna Soubry is too divisive.

durhamjen Sun 11-Jun-17 11:16:39

Do you think the Tories are now trying to sabotage themselves?

skwawkbox.org/2017/06/11/badfridayagreement-not-yet-done-tories-issued-wrong-statement-in-error/

GracesGranMK2 Sun 11-Jun-17 11:18:03

Not surprised I'm afraid Jen. Sayeeda Warsi is on my local Daily Politics (I'm a bit behind watching the recording) and she is saying that there are two things that came out very strongly from this campaign. One that even those who voted remain now accept we have to go towards leaving the European Union. The second message that came out is that they want that Brexit negotiation to be done much more collaboratively, they want it to be a much softer exit and they want 'us' as political parties to work together.

nightowl Sun 11-Jun-17 11:26:09

If my DD's experience of Soubry is anything to go by I wouldn't trust a word she says, on Brexit or anything else. There is a lot of strong feeling against her in her own constituency due to the fact that she is very good at saying what's expedient at the time.

GracesGranMK2 Sun 11-Jun-17 11:29:19

Baroness Varsi went on to say that, rather than doing a deal with the DUP the Conservatives should be reaching out to the other parties - generally! It could win them votes back if they did but I can't see it.

Jalima1108 Sun 11-Jun-17 11:32:13

She's another politician I particularly dislike (Soubry), I can't see her having a loyal following.

Tegan2 Sun 11-Jun-17 11:58:51

Why do people keep saying that those who voted remain now accept the situation? I never will. And everyone I know who voted that way feels the same.

whitewave Sun 11-Jun-17 12:00:13

tegan the tide is changing, many are beginning to recognise this

nightowl Sun 11-Jun-17 12:07:37

But equally Tegan there are many who voted leave (I'm not one of them) who would be up in arms if there's any suggestion of going back on Brexit. There is no way out of this situation I'm afraid, the country was split almost 50/ 50 and I'm not at all convinced the result would be any different if there was another referendum tomorrow. I think that for every person who might change their vote from leave to remain there might well be another voter changing their vote in the opposite direction.

I have no idea how this can be sorted out, and I don't envy the politicians who have to try. One thing's for sure, the conservatives under Theresa May are not the best ones to do it.

annsixty Sun 11-Jun-17 12:08:01

We may accept it, we don't have to like it.

daphnedill Sun 11-Jun-17 12:14:41

I don't agree with Warsi. I'm an ardent Remainer, but grudgingly accept it (depends what question pollsters ask). If the whole thing were to be abandoned, I'd be delighted (but would promise not to gloat grin).

Don't forget that there are at least 750,000 new 18 year olds since the referendum and hundreds of thousands of others who didn't vote in the referendum. The result of a second referendum could be very different, even without knowing how the negotiations will pan out.

daphnedill Sun 11-Jun-17 12:18:28

But, nightowl, we've learnt how to deal with those who don't like results. All we have to do is shout "will of the people", "that's democracy" or "we won - you lost -suck it up!"

I could scroll back and learn a few lessons.

Nandalot Sun 11-Jun-17 12:29:31

I think a second referendum would give a different result . As DD says there are lots of new young voters but also I think the financial implications are coming home to many who were told we would be quids in leaving. If remainers are accepting of Brexit now it is grudgingly because the EU spokespeople are saying there is no going back so we have to make the best of a bad job.

MaizieD Sun 11-Jun-17 12:35:45

As most of you already know, I didn't think this GE really had anything to do with Brexit. I voted the way I did because of the tory threat to state funded public services. I resent my vote being interpreted in any other way.

GracesGranMK2 Sun 11-Jun-17 12:41:45

Why do people keep saying that those who voted remain now accept the situation? I never will. And everyone I know who voted that way feels the same.

I except it but would still vote remain in another referendum. What I do think would be more acceptable to many who voted remain would be a cross party negotiation with the EU. It would hold up better when agreed too I would think.

I agree with Maizie though, I was voting on home policies not on the EU in this election.

Welshwife Sun 11-Jun-17 13:04:04

Well I haven't accepted it as it was a badly conceived and run referendum which got through Parliament by being ADVISORY - then changed when being run to being acted upon. Too many lies were told and too many Remainer MPs lost their b***ls on the way.
It is certainly not in the best interests of the country and I think history will say that and fail to understand why sensible people ever let it happen.

Tegan2 Sun 11-Jun-17 13:05:51

I'm still convinced that many leave votes were just a protest vote against austerity and people are now beginning to realise that it's the government that created that, not the EU. I'm also sure that a lot of people voted Labour this time round as they were fearful of losing the NHS; possibly the very same people who voted leave because they were told the NHS needed the money we were 'giving' the EU.I will never, ever forgive that blatant lie; even more so now that one of the people who stood in front of that bus is now favourite to be PM and the other [Gisela Stuart] has done a Cameron and scarpered....Soubry is one of the people who, for the past 12 months has 'represented' me and I'm grateful for that. She has even received death threats over it.

Tegan2 Sun 11-Jun-17 13:08:31

.....I will, however be out campaigning for Greg next time round, though, as it was a very close run thing!

whitewave Sun 11-Jun-17 13:21:04

I think one of the issues is that the Tories have zero grass roots support except some old fogies in their conservative club, talking to each other and totally out of touch with the world. How on earth can they make a sensible decision.

kittylester Sun 11-Jun-17 13:42:48

WW, I'm a grass roots Tory but I resent the term old fogie, I have never been in a Conservative club in my life and I talk to a cross section of people all the time - 5 left[ish] children for a start! How b****y judgmental and rude can you get. angry

GracesGranMK2 Sun 11-Jun-17 14:11:21

I think so too Tegan (many leave votes were just a protest vote against austerity). I have just heard someone describe the Tories as "the most ruthless party in the west" and I think the ruthlessness went as far as lying to the electorate about austerity and blame it on the EU and also not explain the real figures on immigration and blame the austerity driven lack of resources in areas where migrants gathered on the EU too.

There were a lot of lies.

Lillie Sun 11-Jun-17 14:33:19

In 2010, when Mayor of London, Boris got the job done of removing barriers on London Bridge because they were ugly.

If you are looking for someone, (Boris?), to blame for the recent atrocities of the London bridges durhamjen, then you are forgetting who the real people are we should blame.