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Brexit: On a scale of 1 to 10, where do you stand?

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Bagatelle Wed 21-Jun-17 20:26:38

Given that the result of the EU referendum was hardly a landslide, I can't see that a 'hard Brexit' was ever justified.

Leave: 37.5%
Remain: 34.7%
Neutral/confused/apathetic: 27.8%

On a scale of 1 to 10, with 1 as stay as we were and 10 as leave the EU as far behind as possible,
- where did you stand when you voted (if you did) and
- have your thoughts changed since?

rosesarered Sun 25-Jun-17 22:48:03

Gill57 the poster's user name is stillaliveandkicking or saak for short.
Are you intentionally twisting it to saad ?

Rigby46 Sun 25-Jun-17 22:52:41

Well rar I expect it was a typo and we don't criticise those do we?

GillT57 Sun 25-Jun-17 22:55:00

Oh well if that betrayal of promises makes you happy saak i have nothing more to add. You evidently have very different expectations of manifestos and what you vote for, as long as it wears a blue rosette you will vote for it and expect nothing more, let alone a commitment to what you think you voted for. I now understand how Brexit happened. Goodnight.

stillaliveandkicking Sun 25-Jun-17 23:01:23

Promises? A retraction due to many not wanting it is a very democratic thing to do. A government that listens to the people is happening. I don't want to listen to a nutcase marxist. If you do then shame on you. I also don't want to belong to a defunct club, again if you do shame on you.

daphnedill Sun 25-Jun-17 23:03:44

But there aren't any nutcase Marxists in the HoP!!!

Unless you happen to be a nutcase right winger (or thick), of course!

daphnedill Sun 25-Jun-17 23:04:36

I wouldn't be so bold to suggest which one you re saak.

daphnedill Sun 25-Jun-17 23:05:06

"you are"

stillaliveandkicking Sun 25-Jun-17 23:07:11

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MaizieD Mon 26-Jun-17 01:15:00

A retraction due to many not wanting it is a very democratic thing to do

I'm glad you think that, saak. The polls are showing that an increasing majority of people don't want Brexit. So you'll be quite happy if it's democratically decided not to do it.

WilmaKnickersfit Mon 26-Jun-17 01:46:12

The No1 trending video on YouTube

Theresa May and the Holy Grail

Eloethan Mon 26-Jun-17 11:27:38

That is so clever.

whitewave Mon 26-Jun-17 11:50:29

grin good stuff

GillT57 Mon 26-Jun-17 13:39:18

Gosh people are so clever, I love that!

grannygranby Mon 26-Jun-17 13:55:57

1 meaning stay. My commitment got stronger as I saw who the leavers were - the hard right; Farage- certainly didn't want to side with them. I think Gisela Stuart was deluded coming from the Lefts euroscepticism as Corbyn did. His half - hearted message lost the vote for Remain and he could have got youth on his side but he didn't make the effort. In a binary situation saying you were 7/10 committed wasn't good enough. Now it's a dreadful mess and we will all have to pay dearly.

MaizieD Mon 26-Jun-17 15:41:24

His half - hearted message lost the vote for Remain

As two thirds of Labour voters(65%) voted to remain as opposed to tory's 39% (just over one third,or, to put it another way, fewer than half) I don't understand why Corbyn gets the blame.

Look at the figures, it was tory voters who lost it, not Labour.

Rigby46 Mon 26-Jun-17 16:26:31

Oh Maizie you do understand why he gets the blame grin

durhamjen Mon 26-Jun-17 16:48:45

Can't possibly have been Mayhem's fault.

MaizieD Mon 26-Jun-17 18:25:52

I understand why he gets the blame, Rigby. It just isn't justified when you look at the data on voting party by party.

Dyffryn Mon 26-Jun-17 19:15:28

Yes Welshwife. I live in Wales ?

whitewave Wed 28-Jun-17 16:53:48

Report in the Sunday Times which has implication for the nuclear industry.

" plunge the nuclear industry power plants, cancer treatment centres and research facilities into chaos within two years" because the QS contained a bill which will ensure that the UK leaves the EU safeguarding procedure and instead replace it with UK oversight. It does not apparently match the EU safeguards, therefore will result in the EU refusing to export radioactive material to the UK.

durhamjen Wed 28-Jun-17 17:14:28

UK oversight? A bit like oversight of high-rise housing, then?

durhamjen Wed 28-Jun-17 17:16:59

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/23/spending-watchdog-condemns-risky-expensive-hinkley-point-c-nuclear

Luckylegs9 Wed 28-Jun-17 17:20:40

Daphnedill,is thick, not agreeing with you, or people that have learning difficulties?

daphnedill Wed 28-Jun-17 18:13:47

Pardon? Are you calling me thick? Could you please explain before I report this post.

varian Wed 28-Jun-17 19:09:08

What we’re seeing – what David Davis is currently stumbling his way through – is not a negotiation. It was never going to be a negotiation. It’s controlled capitulation, a signing of terms of surrender. It’s only a “negotiation” for us in the way the Postdam Conference was a “negotiation” for the Germans, with Berlin in ruins and the Nazi High Command dead or in prison.

- from the New European article on Davis's daily humiliation

Those foolish angry brexiters have put the UK in an utterly humiliating position. We have given up control. The other 27 countries will call the shots.