Corbyn and the Monarchy and Armed Forces.

Anniebach is no "bot"! She's very real and with very real opinions beyond the politics threads too.

can someone tell me when Armed Forces day started,It wasn't around when I was young
someone may have answered this already but I think Armed Forces Day was started by Tony Blair. He also donated millions from his memoirs to the Royal British Legion.

Salving his conscience?

Jun-17 08:55:10 What a lot of tosh!

They also celebrate Anzac Day, which I've never understood, because Gallipoli was disaster.
I'm a bit shocked by that statement daphnedill because Australia and New Zealand do not celebrate Anzac Day - it is a remembrance service held on 25th April each year just as we hold Remembrance services here on 11th November and on the nearest Sunday to that each year.

Certainly not a celebration, and the Australians get up before dawn to travel miles to get to their dawn services.

I think to say they celebrate is to do them a grave disservice bearing in mind the thousands who died.

Services are also held in some places in the UK to remember Gallipoli where British servicemen lost their lives too.

Oh let's have more leaders who go to Glastonbury instead of a military parade. Let's have young people who put roses into the barrels of soldiers on guard. Let's believe there is a better world and let's promote peace and understanding and not be dragged into conflict and war where the only winners are the arms dealers and manufacturers.

Just had to repeat your post trisher. I enjoyed its hope so much.

Thank you Jane, first time I have been called a parasite

Oh let's have more leaders who go to Glastonbury instead of a military parade. Let's have young people who put roses into the barrels of soldiers on guard. Let's believe there is a better world and let's promote peace and understanding and not be dragged into conflict and war where the only winners are the arms dealers and manufacturers.

Isaiah 2:4

Peace and love, man, and a few spliffs to go with it
Chill

Thanks GGMK2 when I posted it I wanted to be hopeful and uplifting. I do believe in peace and understanding. I do think we managed to change some things in the 60s and if I could give something to this and future generations it is the belief that things can change and any step however small is better than sticking in the mud and mire.

^ Can't the gloomy Nellies on here remeber how the summer of love (1967) felt?^

Yes, but gloomy, or realistic having lost the rose-tinted spectacles we had in those days despite the Cold War.

The rose-tinted specs did make an appearance again in 1989 thanks to Reagan, Thatcher and Gorbachev.

However, just looking at the belligerence even on here will show anyone that world peace is an unattainable dream.

Still Jalima, even if they're all going to become cynical like us oldies, let them have some optimism!

1967 was in the middle of the Vietnam war. The one our Labour government kept us out of despite what the USA wanted. :-)

Yes 1967 I was outside the American Embassy protesting against the Vietnam war, and not only 1967

Emily Dickinson Poem I love. Seems appropriate somehow.

Hope' is the thing with feathers—
That perches in the soul—
And sings the tune without the words—
And never stops—at all—

And sweetest—in the Gale—is heard—
And sore must be the storm—
That could abash the little Bird
That kept so many warm—

I've heard it in the chillest land—
And on the strangest Sea—
Yet, never, in Extremity,
It asked a crumb—of Me.

Are we just going to make emotional pleas and copy out poetry now?
1967 is a long time ago, and tbh it wasn't a Summer of love for me and for many others, it was an American import as a result of a backlash against the never ending and hopeless war in Vietnam.
We all want some hope and positivity in political life but it doesn't suit everyone to go down the hard left path.

Well well well rar now you're the thread police now are you?

Not at all Rigby as I didn't say there should be no emotional pleas or poetry.
I may not read it though!

As we go marching, marching
I find the lyrics of this song incredibly moving

In the beauty of the day
A million darkened kitchens
A thousand mill lofts grey
Are touched with all the radiance
That a sudden sun discloses
For the people hear us singing
Bread and roses, bread and roses
As we go marching, marching
We battle too for men
For they are women's children
And we mother them again
Our lives shall not be sweated
From birth until life closes
Hearts starve as well as bodies
Give us bread, but give us roses
As we go marching, marching
We bring the greater days
For the rising of the women
Means the rising of the race
No more the drudge and idler
Ten that toil where one reposes
But the sharing of life's glories
Bread and roses, bread and roses

Sorry about the hiccough at the beginning but I think it's clear what it should be

Well well well rar now you're the thread police now are you?
Chill, chill

Rather a strident response to a question.

However, just looking at the belligerence even on here will show anyone that world peace is an unattainable dream

Oh why not emotional pleas rar? And why not hope? There's a saying we are all in the gutter but some of us are looking at the stars. If the younger generation do not have hope and do not strive for a better world we may as well give up now (but I suppose some already have)

In answer to your OP Luckylegs, it's because he is sneaky, & secretive under the pretence of being oh so caring Hidden agendas , he knows that if he wants to get anyone other than his devoted followers on side, he has to pretend & pay lip service to certain behaviours, situations etc , clever but very dangerous do not be fooled.

can I just say that I will not be "celebrating " our armed forces anytime soon...in fact anytime at all.I agree with Armistice day and remembrence Sunday but I dont think this is a good idea at all.I'm not even sure what we should BE celebrating them for .Patriotism is all very well but this is a step in the wrong direction.

There's nothing to stop anybody hoping and striving is there?
People in many countries hope and strive to come to this country to live trisher
And further to that, many people are actually living the life they want and enjoying themselves living in the UK.

internet says it is a day to hold events to show our support for our armed forces.

One could admire Corbyn's sentiment , but if you are the person in charge of national security ,surely they have to be practical & be prepared to defend the country even if that includes military action.? There is a time for talking & times when talking is not enough. Dammed if you do dammed if you don't!