Corbyn and the Monarchy and Armed Forces.

Thanks for post Anya everything has to be paid for one way or another, we all choose the way we think is best as is ,our porogative, no need to swear though ☹️

As I keep reiterating, so many people are getting their "information" from the press, Barons like Dacre and Murdoch know this, and have formed public opinion too long in this country.

That is why we are in such a state.

Times are changing though, and I am optimistic for a better future.

I'll bloody swear if I want to. You're not the forum police.

Of course things have to be paid for. That's a second very stupid post.

Ps manifesto equals disappointment when It cannot be achieved

Sorry I must have strayed onto Childsnet

That makes a third and a fourth

Yes Luckylegs I think that that is what he would like this country to become like ,it would be more honest if he were to come out and say that's what he stands for, but he won't do that because he knows he would loose followers, other parties may be stupid at times but he is deceitful

Sorry I must have strayed onto Childsnet

I think you've strayed into bossy people feel the need to tell other people what to do net

Always surprised at the way people feel free to criticise other people's behaviour in a way that that they surely wouldn't do face to face.

^ I think that that is what he would like this country to become like^

But as he isn't promising violent revolution in the Labour manifesto we can assume that it would happen as do most constitutional changes* in the UK; incrementally over time with the consent of the electorate expressed through their MPS

(*apart from stupid Brexit, of course)

Well yes that has to be true , So I guess we had all better come of gransnet & every other social discussion net, not a bad idea in my(bossy?) opinion. Discussion are rather more understood when we can see & read people's body language . So time for computers to go back in the box perhaps?

Of course he isn't openly promoting it , but it would become that because of human nature & everyone's passion . it is a dangerous route to even hint at, it just invites anarchy at a time when we should all be trying to pull together

Discussions need to be backed up by fact and not opinin masquerading as fact.

opinion

It would be a very rare thing indeed if we were ever given the true facts by any party or government about anything in fact it would be impossible, that is why we get so passionate about various issues etc, almost to the point where we just give & say what ever sad but true in my honest un bossy opinion ?

Should read 'give in '

norose: "It would be a very rare thing indeed if we were ever given the true facts by any party or government about anything in fact it would be impossible, that is why we get so passionate about various issues etc, almost to the point where we just give & say what ever sad but true in my honest un bossy opinion ?"

No-one in power is going to give you facts that don't back up their opinion. This is where depending on printed media is so dangerous, they are all right wing or at the best centrist. You have to go on-line to find a load of reputable news-sites that will give you a different view to balance. I regularly check up on the Canary and Huffpost among others. And I watch Channel 4 News as well as the BBC and even Al-Jazeera.
"Trust No One" :-)

Thank you Yggdrasil, you put that so well I totally agree, I question everything thing I read & hear , it is very hard to track down actual facts even more so with the wide access to forms of media , you have to work really hard to get to the bottom of things ( even when looking back through history) unfortunately head line grabbing news makes for easily reached opinions . I will try what you have suggested .?

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devon correct

Oh let's have more leaders who go to Glastonbury instead of a military parade. Let's have young people who put roses into the barrels of soldiers on guard. Let's believe there is a better world and let's promote peace and understanding and not be dragged into conflict and war where the only winners are the arms dealers and manufacturers.

tris????????????

trisher

trisher absolutely - my DD is one of the many who have become energised by JC and is now politically engaged, may there be many more (irrespective of political persuasion). Can't the gloomy Nellies on here remeber how the summer of love (1967) felt?

Oh goodness - I've just been composing on another thread about posts just consisting of emoticons ????????????????????

Composing = complaining