Cliff Edge anyone?

IMF predicting a slowing economic growth in the U.K. and the same for next year, as they suggested before the referendum. The EU and China are experiencing good growth.

Brexit will be a negative to the UK economy, but only a mild negative providing the negotaiations go well.

I hope the Brextremists are listening.

Lots about Brexit in The Economist magazine this week - editorial comment and a feature article on the 6 different flavours of Brexit. Well worth a read.

Can't wait to eat some of that chlorinated chicken from the US; yummy...

Yes tegan and the delicious, antibiotic laden, artificially fattened beef, yum

My theory is, is that is why the Americans are so big - I don't mean far but taller etc, it's the growth hormones in their meat.

The only newspaper that supports that theory is the Daily Mail, whitewave.
Make of that what you will.

Well, that is how you fatten up cattle, and if the hormones are still around in the beef, then they will go into the consumer, and one of the side effects of the pill used to be weight gain.

Ofcpourse, it could be just that they eat bigger helpings than we do (or more than we used to, anyway, plates seem to have got bigger)

dj then I'm clearly wrong!!! Back to the drawing board

There is a rumour [unsubstantiated] that the Daily Mails publishers are planning to move to Ireland . Interesting to see if it's fake news or not...

I saw that report too!

The publishers of the Daily Mail will move to wherever there are tax advantages. Maybe they fear that Brexit means they won't be able to dodge tax anymore, if that's the case it is a yes from me!

Post brexit it will be the shareholders of everything that call the tunes; the environment will come a very remote second [if it's considered at all]. This is one of my biggest fears.

www.europeanmovement.co.uk/r?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ft.com%2Fcontent%2Fb638551a-68c3-11e7-8526-7b38dcaef614&e=e4ade6782821f6e194bf9f8933e3b563&utm_source=euromove&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=briefing_10_s&n=3

From the man who wrote Article 50., wanting a halt to Brexit.

www.theweek.co.uk/87046/imf-cuts-uk-growth-forecast-citing-tepid-economy-and-brexit-concerns

An excellent letter which everyone should read, dj

Yes, varian, but the ones who really should will not. We can but try.

Sky reporting that Fox is "open" to importing chlorinated chicken from the EU. So I suppose that will mean the drug loaded beef as well. Shame he hasn't taken the consumer into account

He was asked if he would eat one himself and declined to answer. Number 10 declined to answer as well.

www.theguardian.com/business/2017/jul/24/britain-is-fast-becoming-the-sick-man-of-europe-experts-debate-brexit-data

Two experts who know nothing, obviously, according to Brexiteers.

Just speculation,jen

We were known as the sick man when we joined up in the 70s. Our economy then took off and apart from the normal blips experienced by every economy, we haven't looked back.

Might be physically sick this time too with the US meat!!!

Listening to 4. Animal welfare standards.

It is worrying. I always worry about our exploitation of animals and consider that even in this country, even though we claim to have the highest welfare standards animals are still exploited.

But to purchase meat that has been produced by intensive rearing with the animal never lived remotely anything like a normal albeit very short existence seems to me to be a retrograde step too far.

What I think is that if we do this our market will see very cheap chicken and beef with which our farmers can't compete. People who are hard pressed will buy it - of course they will.

We need to protect our animals and farmers.

All true whitewave but let's not forget that our membership of the EU has prevented the U.K. from banning live exports, which has to be one of the worst examples of exploitation and cruelty to animals there is.

Would any of you commenting on the chlorinated chicken care to tell me when you had to buy a chicken that wasn't raised in this country.

You miss the point as far as I'm concerned petra the imported meat will be a lot cheaper than our higher welfare meat. People will buy it.

This has three consequences - our farmers will find it difficult to compete

Animals breed in less that ideal standards are being exploited, and
our farmers may be tempted to join the race to the bottom.

My deepest concern is animal welfare