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Should MP be sacked for using " n "word

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suzied Mon 10-Jul-17 16:50:59

Tory MP Anne-Marie Morris used the phrase "N . In the woodpile" when giving a speech in a meeting in the House of Commons. There are calls for her to be sacked. This is a phrase that even my parents wouldn't have used. I am surprised anyone under 60 knows it. Does she use this phrase at home? She should be severely reprimanded IMHO. Sacked if it happens again .

Nelliemoser Tue 11-Jul-17 07:41:37

Yes! To this about Ann Marie Morris.
Our previous MP made a very cheap racist joke at what in theory a private function but a guest objected and it was reported in the press. Unfortunately I don't think any action was taken back then this couple of MPs eventually retired. There was also concern about some financial goings on.

kittylester Tue 11-Jul-17 07:55:16

I read that Baggs - made me feel better. grin

WilmaKnickersfit Tue 11-Jul-17 08:18:45

I've heard the recording of the incident and what struck me is Morris is only a few years older than me.

I'd never heard the expression outside fiction I'd read. I don't believe the phrase is in use these days and wondered about someone around my age actually using it. If it was someone much older, I could put it down as an example of unacceptable generational behaviour. I think she might have been trying to impress her audience and simply made a bad choice of language.

I don't think it makes her racist. Ignorant maybe.

Rigby46 Tue 11-Jul-17 08:58:29

Making racist comments doesn't make you a racist necessarily but it says something deeply unacceptable about you because how the rest of us supposed to judge? anyway, it's come out that her agent ( her partner) has form as well - makes you think doesn't it?

whitewave Tue 11-Jul-17 09:12:27

In my book making racist comments definately makes you a racist.

MaizieD Tue 11-Jul-17 09:28:40

I'm just astounded because I thought that the word had been excised from the English vocabulary. I thought that no-one would even remember that it had existed, let alone use it in any context whatsoever.

I am absolutely gobsmacked that anyone is trying to defend its use.

Having said that, I think resignation calls are quite OTT. She's not the only deeply unpleasant character in Parliament; she just got caught in an unpleasantness too far. I don't like censoring people's speech unless it is hate speech, which this doesn't appear to be. It's just casual (and clearly habitual, else she wouldn't have even thought of the phrase) contempt for the feelings of others. I hope her constituents regret voting for her...

Jalima1108 Tue 11-Jul-17 09:30:55

makes you think doesn't it? Yes, it does Rigby46

The point about Newton Abbott (only half in jest) was that a journalist reporting on this matter made an extremely dismissive comment about her constituency Where even is Newton Abbot?. He could not be bothered to find out its location and its demographic and what her constituents think about this. People who are upset and offended by this will include them - after all, she is representing them in Parliament and giving her constituency a bad name.

So yes, in this context, Newton Abbott, its constituents and its location does matter.

And I don't care two hoots if no Gransnetters know where it is, the point is that the journalist should have found out and perhaps asked her constituents whether or not they think she should go or merely be reprimanded.

whitewave Tue 11-Jul-17 09:35:06

I know exactly where it is!!!?

Jalima1108 Tue 11-Jul-17 09:41:31

^Last month, ironically, Ms Morris distanced herself from comments made by her electoral agent and partner - who claimed that the 'crisis in education' was "due entirely to non-British born immigrants and their high birth rates.^"
Anne Marie had faced criticism from both the People's Republic of South Devon and Liberal Democrat candidate Marie Chadwick in regards to the comment, saying that it detracted from the debate and was totally unnecessary.
^But in response, Anne Marie Morris told DevonLive: "I don't share the views expressed by Roger Kendrick.^"

www.devonlive.com/who-is-anne-marie-morris-the-newton-abbot-mp-slammed-for-using-n-word/story-30432719-detail/story.html#EQ3tHXhvsQI4a8lY.99

She's been suspended.

Primrose65 Tue 11-Jul-17 09:42:17

I think she should resign. This is not the first time she's been associated with this sort of thing. Her partner (who's also her agent) made some really racist remarks during her campaign. This is not the sort of person you want as an MP.

Jalima1108 Tue 11-Jul-17 09:47:17

As someone tweeted:

"The entire country is looking at Newton Abbott with horror because of Ann Marie Morris's bloody ignorance."

So the entire country minus a few grin whitewave

MaizieD Tue 11-Jul-17 09:48:09

This is not the sort of person you want as an MP.

Clearly the voters of Newton Abbott aren't bothered about her racist tendencies.

MaizieD Tue 11-Jul-17 09:55:05

Jalima

I cannot possibly believe that a woman of her age is ignorant of the fact that nigger is a completely unacceptable word for public use (and has been for many years). I wouldn't want much to do with anyone who used it in private, either..

As for the metaphor she was using there are plenty of other ways she could have described the concept she was trying to get across.

I agree with you about the journalist. He only had to google it, for heaven's sake! The comment was deliberately used for effect. Another example of casual contempt for people's feelings, I think...

Jalima1108 Tue 11-Jul-17 10:18:22

Clearly the voters of Newton Abbott aren't bothered about her racist tendencies
That is a slur on the constituents of Newton Abbott or have I missed something somewhere MaizieD

Saying that you disagree/don't share the views of someone who makes a dubious remark does not make you racist but the contrary I would have thought confused

Jalima1108 Tue 11-Jul-17 10:19:11

Another example of casual contempt for people's feelings, I think...

I think it is casual contempt for anyone outside the London bubble.

norose4 Tue 11-Jul-17 10:37:32

Yes I think she should be reprimanded., She does not deserve to be an MP , not sure if I'm more shocked that she doesn't have the brain or knowledge to know it is inappropriate language or that she does know it is inappropriate, offensive , & outdated but said it anyway. It is obviously part of her vocabulary or else it wouldn't have come to mind to say it. She is not representative of us down yer in Devon where many people greet each other with a happy ' morning me lover, how be e' & for those who have never been to Devon the last phrase is not literal ?

whitewave Tue 11-Jul-17 11:00:00

Sounds more Cornish than Devonshire * norose*??

norose4 Tue 11-Jul-17 11:21:48

If it twernt for the bridge ,twold b a hole lot wurst ??

whitewave Tue 11-Jul-17 11:23:16

??????

WilmaKnickersfit Tue 11-Jul-17 12:04:27

Maize that's the point I was making. How can anyone from her generation (and mine) even speak the word in any context? To use the word means it's in her vocabulary. I can't understand her mind set and I wouldn't want someone like that as my MP.

WilmaKnickersfit Tue 11-Jul-17 12:11:53

Sorry I meant Maizie.

MaizieD Tue 11-Jul-17 12:23:59

That is a slur on the constituents of Newton Abbott or have I missed something somewhere MaizieD

Sorry, Jalima, but they voted for her. I would be very surprised if this was the first time she'd used inappropriate language..

Jalima1108 Tue 11-Jul-17 12:26:46

Yes, quite shocking when you first move there, norose, when the man in the garage calls you 'me lover'

'I have never met you in my life before' grin

Jalima1108 Tue 11-Jul-17 12:28:55

Perhaps the first time she has slipped up in public MaizieD - reading about her, she seems hardworking and enthusiastic and keen to do her best for her area.
Perhaps she let her public mask slip this time.
Daft woman.

You see what I mean, though, about it being a slur on the good people of Newton Abbott. sad

POGS Tue 11-Jul-17 13:19:39

whitewave

Labour accused itself of Anti Semitism!
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As for the MP she was a fool and rightly has apologised.

As for getting the sack I think there are a few who should be in front of her in the queue.