Woe, woe and thrice woe!
Good Morning Wednesday 29th April 2026
wait till friday 1st May for cheap fuel
With Ryan Air stating that it may not fly to the EU from Britain after Brexit and easyjet setting up an operation in Austria are we looking towards a time when there will be no cheap flights to EU countries?
Woe, woe and thrice woe!
And Cassandra predicted absolutely correctly, Maggiemaybe
OMG how on earth did we manage to take our European and overseas exotic holidays before we became part of the EU. I had no problems then, at least we were safer , so why worry your pants off thinking we may be forced to spend our holidays in dear old blighty.
What a mindless post. What does it mean?
It demonstrates beautifully the general level of the average Brexiteers thought processes - as well you know 
Moving away from holiday flights, what is going to happen to cargo freight companies such as ASL, Atlantic, DHL, Etihad,UPS and Woodgate Aviation who all fly from East Midlands Airport, creating many jobs for local people hereabouts?
They will all be DOOMED! 
I am pretty sure Junker will be proved wrong abut English not being important, as it is so widely spoken word wide and I think is the language of aviation mostly.....and as I'm not that keen on him (what has he ever done for us) I am sceptical about his pronouncements.
As for the airline stuff, planes run on aviation fuel and the greed of the owners, greed will resolve the issues and it will all I am pretty sure be fine.
I voted out and was happy to do so, but why people are fretting over the details is a mystery to me as the EU itself is in a state of flux, what we voted to leave has altered anyway, more debt, more migrants, more defaults on the way, I shall be glad when its done but as in all negotiations there will be bluffing and puffing and posturing and niggles.........
The media tell us a version of what is going on, so we are not much the wiser whatever we read. We do however have masses of experience to draw on unlike the young I feel sorry for them, stuck in a world of campaign slogans and soundbites. Some of them believe that working abroad will be impossible post Brexit, it may require a bit more planning but with so much on line support for everything, it will be fine.
We worked and studied and travelled before we went in to the EU and during the time we were members, I.T. took over, so more or less anything can be arranged at the touch of a button now, we will all be just fine. Life is full of change and we have to embrace it, the rest of the world is not standing still, the EU is crumbling in its present form. I am not sure I buy into the NWO strategy but there are some creepy creatures within EU hierarchy who allegedly do.........Mr Blair I believe is one, that dear old Labour party prime minister who like all of them is muti millionaire. Greed is what oils the wheels of commerce and we are not short of that...look at the Kinnocks.....no wonder some people want us to stay in.
We have to trust the democratic system and we voted out....you cannot have repeated referendums, that undermines democracy.
So please relax and fasten your seat belts because it it bound to be turbulent but we do live in very interesting times.
The devil is in the detail!
That is supposed to be a Chinese curse you know
To live in interesting times was an ancient Chinese curse.
Saying 'Everything will be fine' is an idiotic thing to say when we are seeing on a daily basis that is simply not true.
'IT took over so anything can be arranged at the touch of a button' - naive mindless simplistic tosh.
I too feel sorry for the young as my DGCs have been put at the mercy of those who voted to leave based on what has now been shown to be ridiculous lies.
To think that those who voted based on no real facts now feel they've 'taken back control' outrages me and I can only hope that the tide is indeed turning and all is not yet lost!
I think it is a myth that it's an ancient Chinese curse.
However, it is a good saying!
The very thought of not being able to fly to my daughter and family for a long period of time fills me with dread. For a huge number of families it's nothing to do with stag/hen parties; but many families are in fear of not being able to visit each other. In addition, if the costs soar beyond our reach that would be so detrimental to many travelling to family/work in Europe and heartbreaking for me personally.
We're still saying, no one knows how it will work out and it's 2017 ffs! People are saying let's leave it to the negotiators who will have our best interests at heart - REALLY? You think so? Have you seen any evidence that they have the slightest clue they know what they're doing yet?
Cassandra, MaizieD?
Senna the Soothsayer from Up Pompeii.
Yes, mcem, saying everything will be fine is idiotic. As is saying we will be so poor none of us will be able to afford to leave the country after Brexit. As a remainer, I think the most pertinent comment on all the current hyperbole, gnashing of teeth and rending of garments is Anya's earlier one. Bollocks.
Def. a curse and mcem agree with you.
There is a lot of scaremongering going on at the moment but things will sort themselves out. Airlines are not going to want to pay EU business taxes which are going to be swingeingly more expensive than our lowered business rates. As for employing EU workers instead of ours - their employment taxes and 'add ons' are at a rate no business wants to pay and the protections individual countries afford their older workers as such that businesses run a mile rather than suffer them. There is a reason why the youth of Europe have headed to this country to work and that there is nothing for them in their home countries.
"The youth of Europe have headed to this country"? I don't see queues of young Germans, Dutch, French or Italian youngsters at the job centre.
No, because they're usually at work. Nearly 300,000 Germans are officially registered as living here. French citizens had to queue for over 3 hours recently at the London Embassy to cast their election votes, so I guess there are a few of those about too. 270,000 in London alone, according to their Consulate, though our official figures are much lower.
I regularly go over on the ferry there are other ways to travel. I have been all over Europe as far as Dubrovnik in my motorhome. There are trains and buses in Europe just like here.
Senna the Soothsayer modelled on Cassandra, the soothsayer of Greek mythology who was doomed never to have her accurate prophecies believed.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassandra
Sorry, I thought everyone knew who Cassandra was.
Sorry, I thought everyone knew where the quote came from. Can't remember it being attributed to Cassandra.
I was in Italy, due to fly home, on the day the volcanic eruption grounded all flights. As I recall flights were suspended for 5 days. Caused utter chaos.
Of course, if flights are suspended, or severely curtailed, because arrangements to replace the Single Aviation Market and the Open Skies Agreement aren't in place sufficiently in advance of Brexit day for airlines to plan their schedules it won't be as chaotic as the volcano incident but I can forsee a lot of very unhappy people.
Modelled on Cassandra.
If the outlook for flights is so dire why are plans to extend Stansted going ahead? Surely with Ryanair being so important there and so many of their flights going to Europe if the outlook is so very disastrous the plans would be put on hold.
Modelled on Cassandra.
Good God. 
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