I Will Deal With It

smileless, would you care to comment on George Osborne's letter?

Yes, a good summary of the thread so far Eloethan although a little one sided. Interesting because the majority of the comments are a criticism of JC where as posters who support him have a tendency to criticise TM's supporters rather than TM.

It's only those who care about the truth (ie only JC supporters care about the truth)

A poster was told she had comprehension difficulties

'None so deaf who will not hear'

A poster was told she unable to understand a simple statement and explanation

A poster was accused of playing games

" " was told she was leading people around in circles

" " was told she was attempting to tie people in knots

Posters told they were bringing things down to a chant

I think it's reasonable to say that those not supportive of JC are having their opinions ridiculed but not I'm glad to say not drowned out.

primrose would you care to address the objective post by Eloethan above (re-citing dj) regarding George Osborne's letter?

Eloethan thanks for the critique of some of my posts. I'm not happy discussing anything personal as I'm not interested in the personal attacks it generates.
My posts on one thread have you mentioning my name 4 times in your post. Other responders you disagree with are not named - just me. Any reason you single me out?

Thank yoou for that resumé, Eloethan. Very useful for anyone who hasn't been following the thread...

I might add that I was roundly put in my place by whitewave some while ago when I ventured to guess that she was a Labour supporter - goodness, you'd think it was back in the 50s when no one revealed their party allegiance even to their nearest and dearest!

And thank you durhamjen for posting a copy of Osborne's 2003 letter stating the Conservatives' intention to abolish tuition fees all together. Perhaps that was vote catching - who's to know. In any event, he and his party have actually been in power and no such thing occurred - in fact they quite spectaculary did the very opposite.

Once again, the course the way this thread has taken is not being correctly characterised.

There are, as usual, complaints that people who are not supporters of Corbyn are having their opinions drowned out or ridiculed and May is being unfairly picked on.

At the outset of the thread, there was a preponderance of opinion that Corbyn had misled students in saying he "would deal" with student debt. Comments were often of a sarcastic or insulting nature and included:

the blessed Jeremy
liar
betrayer of the Labour Party
shyster
shyster and liar
conman
"he does not have every female voter in the country wanting to be his Mummy"

A response to trisher told her:

"more fool you for believing in Corbyn"

*Primrose posted a cartoon ridiculing Corbyn and kept asking the same question about what "deal with it" meant, when several posters had already posted the text of what he had said and a copy of the Labour Party manifesto which did not include an undertaking to write off student debt.

Primrose then referred to the number of Twitter comments criticising Corbyn - and posted links to one-liners, which added nothing sensible.

I wondered why Primrose, a person who is so forthright about her dislike of Corbyn and the Labour Party, is so coy about her own political position. My comment elicited this response:

"It is just done to stop the discussion. Attack TM, the posters, their opinions - it's pathetic .... I am not engaging with it any more .... they can deal with it"

However, it appears Primrose has recovered from her fit of pique and has continued to post.

Yes we could Primrose, I wonder what an appropriate prize would be for a full house; how about a coat of extremely thick skin?

smileless We could play Insult Bingo!

Corbyn, not Corvyn.

GNHQ, please please give us an edit button!

Obviously Corvyn didn't win in the strict sense. However, seems to me that the Tories must be feeling very threatened by him - I can't see any other reason why a newly elected Government would be putting so much effort into trying to discredit him when there are so many more pressing issues to be dealt with. Not unless it is to draw attention away from the current parlous state of the country, much of which is a direct result of their own actions over the past 7 years. Or they foresee another General Election much sooner than they would dare to admit?

Good for you Primrose there is an old saying that "if they're picking on you, they might be leaving someone else alone"

Of course JC looks happy in that post dj the poor deluded man doesn't seem to understand that he lost. If the 1st, 9th, 13th, 14th and 15th lines were deleted he would be talking about his own party.

Yes Primrose "people (do) throw personal insults when they have nothing of consequence of interest to say". How many badges of victory do you have? I seem to have acquired quite a few.

jalima I seem to attract more insults every day. I take them all as a badge of victory - people throw personal insults when they have nothing of consequence or interest to say.

Yes roses I mean if JC could turn things around although not well enough to win the GE, whose to say TM can't do the same thing and stay as PM.

Well said Smileless

She will be replaced at some point in the next year I should think, but having said that, you never know, and she could do well, and make a comeback, and thus stay.

No he didn't win; oh dear do we really want a man to be PM when he doesn't realise that he lost the last general election. Not for me so no dj I wont be voting for him at the next general election just to see if he can keep the promises he makes, even though the country can't afford them, and he didn't know how much they'd cost in the first place.

TM has without question damaged her authority but she didn't lose the GE, her party won.

We all care about what's happening in the world; a political allegiance that differs from your own doesn't mean that the person who holds it doesn't care.

voxpoliticalonline.com/2017/07/26/will-hypocritical-tories-scream-intimidation-as-labour-supporters-fight-back-over-torydebtlie/

The video on here is worth watching.

I agree about her foolishness though.

She is PM though, and JC isn't. Nobody seriously thinks that he actually won do they?

Maybot has lost, though. All her authority has been squandered by her own foolishness.

Yes, but......he didn't win!

Corbyn is looking happy.