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A divided society-what can be done?

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trisher Wed 02-Aug-17 09:35:46

As Newcastle gets £500000 ot fight right wing extremism
www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/right-wing-edl-newcastle-racism-13402419
there is also news that the cities 2 universities are still attracting EU students and there are increasing numbers of students from the Middle and Far East coming here. Will the money really help? And what can be done to mend a fractured society? When I see the EDL demonstrating and yelling in a city centre crowded with all nationalities I can only see more trouble ahead. Can you educate people to understand the benefits these students bring?

Ana Mon 07-Aug-17 16:58:58

And you know very well I was asking what period it was you were talking about durhamjen (i.e. when your children were teenagers), not 7 years ago...

Primrose65 Mon 07-Aug-17 17:02:55

They've broken a contract devongirl which is not the same as committing a crime. Just google how it works, it's not what you think and it's surprisingly incorrect for someone who has been a landlord.

durhamjen Mon 07-Aug-17 17:07:33

"Society as a whole was probably different when you were renting, durhamjen - how long ago was it?"

No, Ana, you did not ask me that or suggest that was when you meant. I did not know it very well. Perhaps you ought to make your statements more plain.
Then I might understand.

I rented when I was 18, 22, 26, 40, 50 and twice in my 60s.

Would you like to ask me about any of those times?

Smileless2012 Mon 07-Aug-17 17:20:18

My posts are over the top and unfounded trisher says the poster who suggested that I had hidden the fact I was a landlord and suggested I'd done so out of guilt!!!

I doesn't work that way devongirl. If a tenant vacates the property before the final inspection it's too late for the letting agent to do anything about it. Even if the agent sees the state it's in on the day of departure, they can't prevent the tenant from leaving.

The deposit can be retained and if that doesn't cover the cost of repairs and replacements the landlord can go to court. A lengthy and costly business and even if costs are awarded, getting the money is easier said than done.

petra Mon 07-Aug-17 17:25:11

devongirl
What la la land are you in? If I went into my police station and said " I have a problem with my tenant" they would have good laugh. There's more chance of me getting nicked for wasting police time.

Anniebach Mon 07-Aug-17 17:36:51

Gilly, Petra, oh the relief of coming out, at least I was able to make sure my grandchildren had good rentals for second and third years in university grin , forgot , I have one in Hereford too blush

Smileless2012 Mon 07-Aug-17 17:43:17

Perhaps we should start a new thread Annie for all money grabbing, selfish, ageist (against the young) landlordsgrin.

petra Mon 07-Aug-17 17:48:30

annie
You must feel soooo relieved. Can't imagine carrying that guilt around flowers

petra Mon 07-Aug-17 17:51:03

It's like an AA meeting, isn't it, when people go to their first meeting.
" hello, I'm Petra, and I'm a landlady" grin

Anniebach Mon 07-Aug-17 17:56:23

Petra, as a true socialist it has been hell not coming out sooner, oh the relief

Primrose65 Mon 07-Aug-17 17:56:54

grin

trisher Mon 07-Aug-17 18:41:14

Annie if you are a 'true socialist" I am the Queen of Sheba.

Anniebach Mon 07-Aug-17 18:45:21

Do we address you as your majesty Trisha ?

trisher Mon 07-Aug-17 18:47:04

Yes and I will call you Comrade

Anniebach Mon 07-Aug-17 18:57:05

No thanks Trisha, I am not into Corbyn speak .

Emily .thornbury aka Lady Nugee is joint owner of three London properties , one which she lives in , moved in the same time and same terrace as the Blairs, one in Guildford and one in south London, I don't know if these include the council house her husband bought to rent out to her aides

devongirl Mon 07-Aug-17 18:59:43

Primrose "A lease is a contract and so if you breach the terms of your lease, legal action could be taken against you. The court could order you to pay damages, legal costs and/or put right any breach if it is possible to do so. "

devongirl Mon 07-Aug-17 19:01:58

I'm well aware of the law, thanks - luckily I had an agent who ensured the property was looked after for me to come back to when I returned to England.

Primrose65 Mon 07-Aug-17 19:12:48

devongirl Ignorance is bliss.

Lady Nugee's rental property is in Islington, it's not one of her private homes. It's an ex-local authority house too and they evicted the tenant who was living there and allowed Labour Party activists to move in. Power to the people indeed.

Anniebach Mon 07-Aug-17 19:17:37

She lives in Islington , so two in Islington, one in Guildford and one in south London

petra Mon 07-Aug-17 19:23:55

primrose
Come the revolution, the Rolls Royce is mine grin

Primrose65 Mon 07-Aug-17 19:39:47

A Roller? Suits you Petra !
You'd need a chauffeur called Parker though grin

durhamjen Mon 07-Aug-17 21:31:01

www.theguardian.com/society/2017/aug/05/eviction-company-advert-calls-tenants-household-pests

Primrose65 Mon 07-Aug-17 21:49:25

I think that company are laughing at all the free publicity they've been given by the 'outrage' in the press. It would have cost them tens of thousands to get that sort of national coverage. Keep on posting the links durhamjen It's exactly what they're hoping for.

petra Mon 07-Aug-17 22:03:44

durhamjen
Is there a reason you felt the need to post that link again.
You posted it on Saturday 5th.
It didn't have much impact the first time, quiet the reverse.

durhamjen Mon 07-Aug-17 22:09:58

What has been written since shows why some people don't care about tenants being called vermin.

This is what some companies think of tenants now. I can't imagine that they would have dared to produce such literature if they hadn't been encouraged to look down on tenants, if there were not so many people who owned hundreds of houses to rent out.