A divided society-what can be done?

durhamjen
So are you advocating that only Tory voters can 'administer' rental properties?

Because I do not stand up in parliament and rabbit on about housing. i never once joined you in demands to take properties from one group of people to give to another. I don't do hypocricy Jen. I have eleven rental properties, I don't own them, I don't get paid for the work relating to them , the money I make on them is not to pay for private education for the sons of the properties owner , or rented out to the staff of the owner , unlike Emily . Not one of the houses was ever social housing, unlike Emily. And think I will soon have another two for rent, we are undecided on selling or renting them. And I refused to occupy one.

Not at all, but others do.
Annie is Labour.
Emily is Labour.
Why is Emily criticised, but not Annie?

But you are making money out of rental properties, just like Emily Thornberry.

You are complicit in taking houses off the market that other people in the area could have bought, just like Emily Thornberry.

Of course you didn't demand compulsory purchase of unused properties from the rich overseas owners to rent out to the poor. You probably saw the hypocrisy in that.

Do make up your mind Jen, you have called me a Tory, a Tory spy, told me I am not a socialist .

No .jen, I am not making one penny. I said I am not paid for this work.

The only property that Thornberry owns and is rented out is a flat in Guildford, Surrey, jointly owned with her family, that needs to be declared.

She doesn't own the house she lives in?

Mmm I don't understand that-you don't own them, you don't get paid for the work, but you make money on them (tax dodge?). It's not quite the picture you have painted in the past Annie- Champagne socialist then. Arguably you are doing a job that someone could be paid for. So I don't know who you are doing it for but after all that criticism of Emily Thornberry I do wonder and I think you should be careful-people in glasshouses you know.

You said "The money I make on them..."
That's the same as Emily Thornberry.

Jalima (that's an unusual name). I agree with your post re proper names. Sorry I started this but was just a bit puzzled and surprised. Back to business.

How am I a Champagne socialist ? I do not receive one penny from the properties, and with draw your allegation of tax dodging please.

Of course she owns the house she lives in.
But with your vast knowledge of how parliament works, even you should know that MPs do not need to declare the houses they live in.

Lots of MPs rent from each other, even ones who live near enough to commute. They still fiddle the taxpayer that way.
Don't have time to go through that list to find out who does that.

Annie read your own post-you don't get paid, you make money on them. It's there in black and white. As I said I don't know who you are doing it for, but as far as volunteering goes sounds a bit far fetched to me. And if you are working and making money and not declaring it you are probably doing it so you don't have to pay any tax. Tax dodging then. Even if you are doing it purely for goodwill you are depriving someone else of a job and someone somewhere is making money. Whatever the situation it is as dodgy as anything you have accused Emily Thornberry of.

"I do not receive one penny from the properties..."
"The money I make on them..."

Sorry, that does not make sense.

Jen, when I tin rattle for the Salvation Army and the Captain telephones me he says - Annie you made £x this year , I do not take money from the tin

My mother had exotic tastes maryeliza

The tin is clearly labelled Annie you aren't nor are the properties you 'administer'. Please note I haven't withdrawn my tax-dodging accusation!

You really couldn't make this sh*t up could you ?
You don't owe anyone an explanation Anniebach

Why did I use an asterix ? To be polite? To save upsetting those with sensitive eyes?

The word was shit ! You couldn't make this shit up !

Didn't expect you to withdraw your false accusation Trisher , I am pleased I have given you and Jen someone to sharpen your claws on and make yourselves look sooooo childish at the same time,

Gilly, apart from the awaited gas bill I don't owe anyone anything.

So it's Ok to make accusations about people without revealing anything about your own situation even though it is relevant to a discussion and some of your comments have led to people assuming certain things about you? It's just trying to ascertain why Annie feels the need to present a certain profile and to condemn a socialist MP. To clarify her position and any personal interest she has in the discussion. If there is shit around it isn't coming from anyone else, and I agree the whole thing stinks.

Well I wish I could say the same Anniebach

I believe the changes to expenses re withdrawal of payment of mortgage interest is one of the factors that has led to more MPs becoming landlords. So an MP under the old rules bought a flat and had his /her mortgage interest paid. That stopped so same MP rented a flat, had rent paid, and rented out the flat he owned ( sometimes to another MP) and used that rent to fund mortgage. For me, the real issue was that they got help with the mortgage interest but got to keep the increase in value of the flat/house ( minus any capital gains tax if they hadn't flipped but flipping's another story). I think this is one issue - and different from an MP who has a portfolio of rental properties. I don't understand why it matters whether a property is ex- council house or ex- housing association. If it's on the market and bought legitimately, why is that different from buying a house that was always a privately owned house? I think that's a different issue from buying the council house or housing association house that you actually live in at the point of sale. Not necessarily better or worse but different issues arise. My niece bought a lovely ex housing association house - the woman she bought it from had bought it under right to buy from the housing association - the real pity was that it was able to be sold in the first place in an area of real rental housing shortage at affordable rents.