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A divided society-what can be done?

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trisher Wed 02-Aug-17 09:35:46

As Newcastle gets £500000 ot fight right wing extremism
www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/right-wing-edl-newcastle-racism-13402419
there is also news that the cities 2 universities are still attracting EU students and there are increasing numbers of students from the Middle and Far East coming here. Will the money really help? And what can be done to mend a fractured society? When I see the EDL demonstrating and yelling in a city centre crowded with all nationalities I can only see more trouble ahead. Can you educate people to understand the benefits these students bring?

Ana Tue 08-Aug-17 11:17:05

It's perfectly obvious to anyone with half a brain who isn't determined to think the worst what Annie is doing. The clue is in the word 'administers'.

Anniebach Tue 08-Aug-17 11:18:20

I work and do not get paid so am robbing someone of a job. I assume .Jen charges for teaching her grandson ?

trisher Tue 08-Aug-17 11:18:37

Seems you can't explain, so to clarify:
You are condemning a hard working Labour MP who works hard and has to declare all her interests
BUT
You 'administer' a large number of properties for which you are not paid, but from which you make money and which someone else owns, but you don't feel the need to explain anything.
Now personally I couldn't give a damn if you are working for Rackman but your condemnation of Thornberry is despicable.
You are suppose to be a Christian- mote in your own eye perhaps

Anniebach Tue 08-Aug-17 11:20:45

Awwww Gilly , I assure you there have been times in the past when i have searched the back of the sofa the day before pay day ?

Anniebach Tue 08-Aug-17 11:23:15

Keep going Trisher, free your insides of all that venom, doesn't bother me. God knows what I do and think, he will judge me. You? Nah

trisher Tue 08-Aug-17 11:23:34

But not now eh

Primrose65 Tue 08-Aug-17 11:24:26

Annie The only way to do no wrong on these forums is to be a Labour politician, then you can do whatever you like. They are only criticising you as they have no political arguments in them. They'll start back on me soon enough I'm sure.

Anniebach Tue 08-Aug-17 11:24:30

Not now what?

Anniebach Tue 08-Aug-17 11:27:46

Primrose, they only defend far left politicians , such as Corbyn,Thornberry,McDonald and Abbott , and remain silent on Venezuela because Corbyn has put it forward as his utopia.

trisher Tue 08-Aug-17 11:42:25

Ah back to Corbyn again I thought the argument would have to be deflected somehow.
Annie I have no 'venom' in my insides or any where else. I simply like openness and honesty in everything and when someone posts something I like to know where they are coming from.
If this offends you I can't help it.

trisher Tue 08-Aug-17 11:44:54

And actually raising dj's grandson was a bit of a low blow. I'm sure he would be in mainstream education if there was proper provision for hm. As far as jobs go, we are struggling for teachers anyway and one child missing from a class of 30 wouldn't create any jobs.

Primrose65 Tue 08-Aug-17 11:46:26

I know Annie I posted a link to Corbyn and Venezuela on the deal with it thread yesterday. He is indefensible.
To be fair, I don't really criticise other Labour politicians so no one has had to run to the defence of Chuka Umunna!

Anniebach Tue 08-Aug-17 11:48:02

Then Trisher I will await Jen to explain about her arrangements for teaching her grandson, she has spoken of it for years. Does she charge or is she doing a teacher out of a job or Tax Dodging? She is very concerned about education in this country. I too like openness and honesty .

I think this is fair, I have been accused of much in just one day.

Anniebach Tue 08-Aug-17 11:51:11

But Trisher, are there no teachers who need the work .Jen is doing in her area ? If she is being paid then she isn't taking eno,oyment from anyone, as I have been accused of doing.

Primrose65 Tue 08-Aug-17 11:53:23

Annie flowers

Anniebach Tue 08-Aug-17 11:58:43

Primrose , how lovely, how true, thank you.

Primrose65 Tue 08-Aug-17 12:18:22

It's rather ironic that personal attacks happen on a thread called 'A divided society, what can be done?' and the OP is one of the people who has upset you Annie

Anniebach Tue 08-Aug-17 12:27:29

I'm not upset primrose, I knew when I posted about the properties the claws would be out, it gives them a way to defend dear Emily, they always use distraction .

Anniebach Tue 08-Aug-17 12:29:03

Oops, but mocking my faith is low even for them.

devongirl Tue 08-Aug-17 12:32:57

Annie, apologies for asking this again but I can't find my previous post, and therefore your answer. I know you don't like JC, now it's not clear that applies also to Emily Thornberry; as a labour party member, who would you like to see as leader of the party?

trisher Tue 08-Aug-17 12:35:20

You have been asked about things Annie up till now you have been perfectly happy to post about your Labour credentials, your personal opinions and your background. Suddenly no-one has to ask.
And it isn't a question of there being no teachers (although there aren't and likely to be a lot less soon) Special needs education has been steadily eroded and reduced over the years because it costs a lot and education funding has been cut. Probably because people don't pay their proper taxes.
But also as I said 1 child does not equal 1 teacher so makes very little difference to the system
On the other hand 1 administrator is a job isn't it?

maryeliza54 Tue 08-Aug-17 12:37:04

Another genuine question - I don't have a faith to be mocked but why should faith be treated differently from other beliefs? There is plenty of mocking of political beliefs from both sides that I can see.

Anniebach Tue 08-Aug-17 12:38:25

Teaching isn't a job Trisher?

Anniebach Tue 08-Aug-17 12:39:18

Very genuine maryeliza

maryeliza54 Tue 08-Aug-17 12:43:56

What do you mean? Why is faith different? I really don't understand at all? If there was no mocking at all of anyone's beliefs, that would be consistent but I don't understand why religious beliefs should be ring fenced.