A divided society-what can be done?

Give it some thought is the best advice I can offer maryeliza

devongirl, I did reply to your question, I always reply if asked with courtesy.

I don't give thought to a different labour leader now, the far left has it in the bag,

When Milliband stood for leadership I voted for Andy Burnham.

When Corbyn stood i was going to vote for Yvette Cooper, changed my mind , had discussed it here with posters I believed to be socialist so voted for Corbyn, I was stupidly taken in by far left militants and didn't know Corbyn was a hypocrite who wanted to destroy the Labour Party and replace it with a communistq party.

@maryeliza

Just to backtrack a bit (I've been out shopping), this is about Thornberry's tweet.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30142579

It amazed me at the time and still amazes me; how much can be read into three words and a picture.

It's not just one tweet Maizie

She sent her children to selective schools, which I suppose is better than Abbott but not what she preaches

She is a hypocrite.

Thanks for your reply, Annie

Yes two of her three children. That's a real issue for me - I suppose a Labour politician has far more hurdles to jump not to be a hypocrite. If a Tory MP defended private education but sent his children to state school, that would be fine because he can do that but still believe in private education. It must be hard for some Labour politicians balancing their beliefs and what's best for their children. But obviously not true for most

It must be hard for some Labour politicians balancing their beliefs and what's best for their children.
Why should a private school be a better choice and best for their children?

If private schools are better and a Labour politician sends their children to one why would they want to do away with them?

It wasn't a private school for ET it was a partially selective and she must have thought it better

It's not Labour policy to do away with private schools - it's the selective issue - I think that's why Primrose said DA was worse

I'm sure that a great many Labour voters send their children to selective schools, too. It's not a crime. Though it's clearly a crime against the Labour movement in the eyes of many of the posters on here.

As is, apparently, Home Educating a child. Also perfectly legal.

Roll on the Revolution, eh? When all citizens live by the code of conduct decided by a committee of censorious grannies and are thrown into outer darkness if they deviate by so much as a millimetre.

I suppose the issue is whether what you choose for yourself/ your family is at odds with what is party policy. So selective education is a clear issue for Labour politicians.

For me it's hypocritical to oppose grammar schools on the grounds that they devide children yet support selective schools for your own children. Emily T was asked and ger reply - I want best education for my children and the best education for all children.

Surely parents who want grammar schools want what they think is best for their children.

I am against grammar schools before I am accused of supporting them.

I have the same problem with Corbyn, he is against the House of Lords yet shoots Shami off there for a few weeks work as a labour party member

A little bit against perhaps

I haven't read one post which is against home education.

Maizie- I do think there's a difference between being a voter and an MP. I think the real issue is how high you set the bar. I think choice of selective education is fair enough but criticising the value of someone's house for example, is not. I was trying probably clumsily to say that there are more pitfalls for Labour politicians than for Tory politicians because of the differences in underlying ideologies and beliefs. I felt very uncomfortable reading the comments about HEd that were made because there seemed to be something very personal and unpleasant going in.

The House of Lords exists, it would not be very sensible to not use it as a Labour leader

Didn't JC fall out with his second wife because of comprehensive education for their children?

Jon Lansman is a partial owner of a property company that buys up homeless shelters and evicts the tenants so they can be redeveloped. The other owners are his brother and son.
He's a director of a company Ortonovo Holdings that owns a 43% stake in FPC Convenience No1 Ltd. That company has a huge number of subsidiaries - but I'll call the whole group FPC.
Some of the hostels in London where FPC have done deals were Castle Lane in Victoria (sold to Land Securities for £22.5 million) 7 Dock Street in Aldgate, Princess Beatrice House in Earls Court, Judd House at Old Street.

I'd be interested in any of the Momentum supporters/JC supporters helping me understand how it's OK to make someone homeless for personal profit.

To save some frantic googling, it's been reported in the media for years. I like this blog post though, as it shows the beautiful architecture of the buildings in Victoria
1londonblog.uk/2017/03/castle-lane/

But back to divided Britain - this is shocking news
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/the-health-gap-new-mortality-rates-show-how-the-north-loses-out-to-the-south-8653001.html?amp

I wasn't ignoring your post Primrose or trying to deflect - our posts crossed - it always takes me ages when I do a link. I don't support JC or Momentum but how could anyone think it's OK to make people homeless for personal profit? Whatever party the person doing it supported?

I haven't read one post which is against home education.

Hang on, ab. Weren't you castigating dj a few pages ago for home edding her GS and depriving a teacher of a job?

The article seems to blame higher obesity and 'lifestyle' choices like smoking and drinking. I'm not particularly shocked that people who make unhealthy choices are unhealthy.

No Marie, I responded in kind to Jens accusation that I was taking a job from someone who needed one,

I did not say I did not support home schooling

Trying to debate something here you lot - I heard the Professor in charge of the research on R4 and he said it was more than that - e.g. Access to resources. I guess media coverage won't do it justice . But whatever the reasons, it's an example of division

He also mentioned the much higher suicide rates of the younger men

Oh flipping heck - wrong link - will try and find proper one no wonder you were do underwhelmed Primrose sorry