Newcastle sex grooming

I don't think it's as simple as teaching the girls what danger signs to look out for - somewhere in the mix is the issue of young girls desperate for love and affection and so who are easy prey to the 'boyfriend' idea. Why is their self esteem so low, why is there such a longing to be loved? In as much as there is a 'type' of male who commits these crimes, there is also a 'type' of girl/young woman who is vulnerable to this type of grooming and subsequent abuse. We should also be thinking about this and exploring what can be done to help the victims to feel differently about themselves so as not to be open to the abuse in the first place.

Yes, maryeliza, they have all been through our education system. What happened there?

The education system deals with children, not grown adults. You can change attitudes to certain practices in society if it is not just the school system advocating it. Every aspect of society that affects behaviour needs to be participating in making it clear to adults that it is unacceptable. The majority of these crimes are conducted in secret so they know they are doing wrong or they would be more open about it. We need to challenge the behaviour of men who think they can grope women etc as they please. But how many of the women have the nerve to tell them to take their hand of their buttocks or such like in public which is what we need to be doing? Women everywhere are subjected to these gropings when out and about but very few challenge them even in a crowded place. They move away instead.
The element of racism in this case is that they targeted white girls, and the men involved were not . That has nothing to do with them being Muslim. It has everything to do with their attitude to the freedom they perceive white women enjoying. It is about control. For me the most disturbing element in this case is that they deliberately targeted vulnerable girls who, because of their background or mental capacity, were unable to tell the difference between a caring relationship and an abusive one. You don't have to be Muslim, Asian or anything else to target girls in this way. Anyone/group can do it if they have a certain mindset.

As a Christian I have this urge to crucify people.

Why blame sex abuse on religion? If one thing must be blamed thenculture ? but I think it's more than that.

Why are so many slaves in this country? on building sites,farms, brothels? is this Christian faith?

Whilst wanting the full force of the law enforced, why do we not ask - where are the parents and relatives of these girls ?

www.theweek.co.uk/modern-slavery/87695/modern-slavery-affecting-every-uk-town-and-city

The link I put on about the woman in the Netherlands says that her mother sold her into slavery at 6 years of age.

I thought it was the Romans crucifying the Christians but am happy to be corrected!
Whatever though it is a barbaric thing to do and I would consider that to be absolutely against my Christian beliefs.

I agree Anniebach. It is not about religion. Catholic priests and C of E ministers did not abuse the children in their care because they (the clergy) were Christian. They did it because that is the sort of sex they wanted and they had a group they could control.
You ask why there are so many sex slaves etc. I suspect it is because men can demand sex acts from them they can't or won't from their wives/partners. There is an increase in sex slaves because there is an increased market for it. Easier access to hard porn for both sexes gives the impression it is all 'normal'. In a loving relationship, with consent on both sides, no doubt it is but in an abusive, non equal relationship it is not.
I agree. Society has to address the issue as to why so many parents feel they cannot give their child the home it deserves. And society has to be prepared to pay the financial price for good staffing levels to prevent this type of abuse.

The romans did as demanded by the Jews

Devorgilla, they are also working on farms and building sites .

The use of sex slaves, what does that say for British men

But AB, they didn't have to. They chose to.

Sorry Devro, who didn't have to?

AB, last post was referring to the Romans.
I agree. It doesn't say a lot for the men using these poor girls/women.
Yes, those in enforced labour, fondly referred to as economic migrants, are also slaves. It says a lot about turning a blind eye for cheap food etc. When the Unions first protested though about migrants working for lower wages they were accused of racism as I recall. Happy to be corrected on that though.

AB, just to be clear the Romans didn't have to give in to the Jews. They did so because it suited them politically to do so. We never learn from history.

Crucifixion was used as a method of execution for some time - the Romans asked the Jews who should they spare -Christ or Barabas - they knew crucifixion was the method of execution - it is too simplistic to say they made the Romans do it - the Romans were the rulers.

I still say it is a barbaric method and cannot understand why anyone who professes to be a Christian would advocate its use.

However it does not solve the problem of these gangs and the poor children who are having their lives ruined.

Welsh wife, surprise surprise, I did not mean I supported cruxifiction

AB, just to be clear the Romans didn't have to give in to the Jews. They did so because it suited them politically to do so. We never learn from history.
Judea was a Roman province ruled by Rome and the Romans installed Herod (a Jew) as its King.

I don't think anniebach's remark was meant to be taken literally Welshwife
I can't believe that anyone would think that it was.

Crucifixation was not invented by the Romans but probably was used by the Persians centuries earlier.

WTFFFFF has crucifixation practised 2,000 years ago to do with events in Newcastle??

I know threads wander, but FFS!!

And what have Jews to do with the price of fish?

Nothing riverwalk, I did refer to it in a throw away comment ,enough to set some off

Thanks Jalima, I didn't think anyone would take the remark seriously

Anyone heard this today?

talkradio.co.uk/news/child-abuse-inquiry-member-i-was-silenced-2015-ensure-theresa-may-could-become-prime-minister

Cameron didn't stand down until July 2016

So? You could listen to the recording if you want to find out why she said that.

And yet another 5 men on trail in Newcastle for child grooming.
How many more?