Rohinga Muslims genocide

I would have thought there would be a lot more comments on this subject, but I suppose brexit and bashing the government are much more important subjects than the persecution of a minority peoples by a government lead by a Nobel prize winner.

secure.avaaz.org/campaign/en/rohingya_crackdown_loc/?slideshow

Are you one of the 1.2 million who have signed this?

I suppose the nearest Muslim country to Bangladesh would be Pakistan. It might be helpful if they could help poor Bangladesh to support this huge influx of refugees but they are an enemy country to Bangladeshis after their war of independence from them. Another British boundary disaster.

Avaaz have also been collecting donations to get the Rohingya to safety.

In answer to your question dj -Yes.

www.reuters.com/article/us-myanmar-rohingya-geldof/bob-geldof-hands-back-dublin-honor-shared-with-aung-san-suu-kyi-idUSKBN1DD0X6?il=0

Bob Geldof has made a stance, Oxford made a stance when will the United Nations stop b----y talking about it and do something ?

Saw a report on Sky News showing these refugees waiting in Myanmar to cross a river - reporter went with the escape boat - they managed to get about 30 in the boat and there are thousands camped on theMyanmar side with no food etc.
They gave some statistics - 52% are women and many more are children - men are minority - many small children are unaccompanied and the adults are doing their best to feed them

As you say, when in Gods name will the UN, so vocal when it's a western country, at least voice even a modicum of disapproval at the mass murder of these poor people? Or are they so terrified of upsetting the Myanmar government to the point of paralysis? How pathetic the UN is, just like the League of Nations that proceeded it, just laughable. It makes you despair.

Saw the excellent report by Gabriel Gatehouse on Newsnight last night about the plight of these people. The suffering and displacement is overwhelmingly dreadful. Sadly no one in the wider world seems overly concerned although TM did, to her credit bring it up in her speech the night before (?) Why this genocide isn't being shouted from the rooftops is beyond me, but I daresay it's politically expedient for the world to turn a blind eye and hope that with a bit of luck it will somehow go away - bit like the Welsh Assembly really with their inconvenient suicide!

Good post nigglynellie

Yes, why isn't there a concerted response from the western world regarding the atrocities taking place in Myanmar? It is very strange. I saw the trailer for Gatehouse's report on Newsnight but just wasn't up to seeing or hearing about it before bed. It's so upsetting knowing people can inflict such pain on others. Those people surviving the terror are in dire straights. I'll watch on catch-up later.

Geldof's posturing is pretty useless but if it's made people who were unaware of what is going on in Myanmar find out and take notice then it's a step in the right direction. World leaders have to condemn this atrocity and bring pressure to bear on this barbaric regime.

Thank you Day6. Yes the report was very upsetting, made more so by the fact that that it is being perpetrated or at least ignored by a Nobel peace prize winner! I think the British Government have supplied some financial aid thank goodness. The Roshinda were instrumental in giving aid, shelter and succour to British troops in the then Burma during WW2 at enormous risk to themselves which I know is a long time ago and now probably felt by some to be completely irrelevant, but that surely must be worth something now they are being so cruelly treated? Personally I don't give a toss for ASSK or Myanmar's sensibilities. These people need our help and we must continue to give it.

Apparently the situation in the camps is excellent for the sex trade! So many displaced girls,boys and children as young as five are being sold or kidnapped - business is booming according to one report! As usual no one seems particularly perturbed. ASSK believes it to be fake news! The UN has bleated, TM, to her credit has spoken out. Other politicians? Not a dickybird - Must be ok then, I'm clearly missing something!

On the news last night:- interest at last being taken, hopefully followed by some action - fingers crossed!

BUMP

I make absolutely no apology for bumping this thread .

AT. LAST!

I woke this morning to the good news a United Nations fact finding has ' at last ' said their was evidence of genocide in Myanmar and there should be trials against Myranmar Military Leaders. for crimes against humanity.

Whether or not this will happen is doubtful but I hope those who barely speak of, cannot bring themselves to mention the name Aung San Suu Kyi in relation to the genocide in Myranmar will accept the truth. They cannot possibly carry on giving her either the benefit of doubt or resist reporting her connection.

The report is not favourable to Aung San Suu Kyi and I hope now ALL bodies who have lionized / feted Aung San Suu Kyi will remove her from their Roll of Honour and the Nobel Peace Prize whilst not taking the lead as some others have should do so without delay.

She may not be included as being a perpetrator but as the Leader of Myanmar she has continued not to speak out , in fact she has shown little to no remorse in truth about the Rohinga, she is as culpable in my opinion by the words she has spoken and the words she has not spoken and most certainly by remaining in the position of Leader of Myanmar.

Or will the Myanmar government remain impervious to accusation by some ?.

As you know I feel strongly on this subject, and I don't know really where to begin except to say that for all their good work, the chances of bringing anyone to justice in this particular instance is imo pretty remote! Surely though A.S.S.K could be stripped of her Nobel Peace Prize? Her silence has been deafening! Perhaps though she is just a puppet leader or perhaps she is, and always has been a sham. Her father's daughter?!! Either way, her retaining a peace prize brings the N.P.P into total disrepute and it should be removed without further delay! - wishful thinking? I expect so knowing politicians as we do!!!!

nigglynellie

I know you have been a poster over the years that has felt the same.

I was incensed every time a recent news report started by saying ' It's a year since ' . No it isn't a few of us have been speaking of the Rohinga issue even on GN for years.

The UN ' veto ' will no doubt ensure b---r all happens but at least there can surely no longer be those who prefer to avoid including Aung San Suu Kyi in any shape of form of collaboration, at least being the biggest hypocrite possible.

I will repeat her words :-

" Ultimately our aim should be to create a world free from the displaced, the homeless and the hopeless, a world of which each and every corner is a true sanctuary where the inhabitants will have the freedom and the capacity to live in peace.” – Aung San Suu Kyi’s Nobel Peace Prize lecture, 2012

I just get the feeling POGS that nobody awfully cares. It's a shocking state of affairs and yet world wide, even on here, condemnation even comment is very muted. As you say nothing will be done, maybe a bit of lip service, nothing more. Is it because of the embarrassment of once idolized A.S.SK, being now shown in her true colours, or that these unfortunate people are just not important in the world at large? I know the middle east takes up all our sympathy and indignation, but surely there should be some outcry by ground level politicians condemning the Burmese government for the appalling atrocities against these people, maybe a bit of sympathy for Bangladesh who is having to accommodate this tragedy in spite of being such a poor country themselves. Plenty about the EU and the refugee problem for European countries, but very little for Bangladesh who is equally if not more so, having to cope with overwhelming odds. How selective the world is, how sad is that?!!

Thanks for bumping this POGS. I'm another one who is surprised at what seems almost like indifference by our politicians and by the general public. I echo niggly's comments in comparing the news focus on pressures on Europe because of refugees from Africa or failed states in the Middle East but so little coverage on the impact of Bangladesh who are trying to provide safety for those fleeing the genocide of Myranmar people.

Thank you, POGS, for bringing this to our attention again. It is a very distressing situation and it is frustrating that there has been so little publicity about it, although there have been reports on the BBC from time to time.

I agree aboutAung San Suu Kyi. She is either just a helpless puppet of the military or is herself complicit in this and should be condemned by all those who feted her previously.

The world needs to wake up and take notice - and help.

I am unashamedly keeping the eye on Myanmar so posting again.

I hope now 2 Reuters journalists have been jailed in Myanmar the pressure is really put on not only
Aung San Suu Kyi but the Nobel Committee.

How can they look to be a credible organisation when so much evidence is there for all to see.

I've put a link on POGS

news.sky.com/story/two-journalists-jailed-for-7-years-in-myanmar-in-official-secrets-case-11489301

If ASSK had the NP taken away from her tomorrow, how exactly would this help the situation as the real villains in all this, the military chiefs, still have all the power and have had for decades.

Well, it would be a demonstration that they are aware if nothing else.
It is morally indefensible for her to remain a holder of the Nobel Peace Prize.

But I asked how would it help the situation? Moral outrage doesn’t cut the mustard with the military does it? It does seem that some posters would rather condemn ASSK than the military - yet her crime is that she fell from grace - but she did at least attain grace - her 15 years of house detention, the sacrifices she made re her family life. I’m not being an apologist for her - like many of her previous supporters I’m devastated by her behaviour over this but there’s a viscousness in some of the attacks on her which is disproportionate - she tried and eventually failed dreadfully but to act as though she’s the villain of the piece is frankly quite wrong.

I absolutely agree with you Jalima, it is morally indefensible for ASSK to keep the Nobel peace prize. No, it wouldn't make any difference, but at least the purpose, meaning and morality of this award would stay intact, whereas at the moment it would seem very tarnished and demeaned to say the least.