Voting for Jeremy Corbyn - the political equivalent of buying a Harley Davidson

I didn't say it, Annie. It was a link to a Unite article, about the people getting rid of this Tory government and voting in a Labour one.

"The cuts are so bad that a local government leader warned: “Even if councils stop filling in potholes, maintaining parks, closed all children’s centres, libraries, museums, leisure centres and turned off every street light, they will not have saved enough money to plug the financial black hole they face by 2020”. A remarkable assessment and even more so as it was made by Lord Porter, the Conservative chair of the Local Government Association.

The ultimate solution is to rid ourselves of this god-forsaken Conservative government and replace it with a Labour government. Labour’s current national policy forum report demonstrates the clear red water which exists on local government when it states: “Labour is committed to ensuring local government funding is sustainable for the long term.” "

What they are saying is that in some areas funding has been cut by 60%. The Tories should be punished for that.

Then you quoted UNITE .Jen, no difference . I am surprised you are accepting no vote on brexit, you have certaintly been very vocal on the subject before and since the referendum .

It was said on the news this morning momentum has issued instructions that debate on brexit must be - softly, softly

I see no reason to disbelieve the figures dbDB77. You had me thinking your were querying my figures! I am sure the membership will have something to say if they think something is wrong.

What I do believe is that you are using this rather tenuous argument because you don't agree with what the Labour Party stands for. How about putting a proper discussion together about policy rather than grasping a straws ?

Good Brexit debate - democracy in action!!!

Wonder what we will hear from the Tory party. Certainly nothing like this.

I agree, whitewave.
Real members speaking as well.

The press (and some on here) are just upset that there will be no contentious votes. It seems sensible for Labour Party members to want to keep their powder dry at this stage to me and it is their conference.

As you say whitewave - will the same people be asking this of the Tories next week. Now did I just see a pig fly over? They are not allowed to discuss anything let alone the divisive subject of Brexit. They are just told what to think so it's not going to happen is it.

Then you quoted UNITE .Jen, no difference

But Unite quoted a very chilling assessment from the Conservative chair of the LGA

“Even if councils stop filling in potholes, maintaining parks, closed all children’s centres, libraries, museums, leisure centres and turned off every street light, they will not have saved enough money to plug the financial black hole they face by 2020”.

Are Unite meant to say 'Oh that's fine, then' and not propose any action?

Jewish lady speaking about Palestinian state - good stuff

Standing ovation for her

So a quote of a quote of a quote ,

Is the Brexit debate over, then ww?

Wouldn't it be better if you concentrated on what was said, Annie, rather than just comment on who on here said what.

It's no wonder people question your socialist credentials.
Don't you supprt unions trying to keep workers jobs?

maizie no. It is all part of internationalism debate. So people are debating all things international.

Just had a GMB speech about the chaos that will be at Dover post Brexit.

Now we are looking at how unions help those suppressed throughout the world.

" before you eat breakfast in the morning you have depended on half the world" Martin Luther King

John Rule - passionate remainer. Thinks the leadership is steering the right path.

I think a lot of people are simply amazed that there will be no Brexit Vote at Conference, and, no matter how it is 'spun' there will be a lot of unhappy Remainers.
There is a hilarious cartoon of a rock solid ( ahem!) Corbyn on the beach, with an M for Momentum running through the rock, in The Guardian today.As it's thought that they are behind the softly softly approach to Brexit.

Note to BBC - stop switching the camera to someone looking tired every time someone supporting Remain comes onto the stage.

lemon then you obviously are not politically astute.

I am a remainer and am totally content that there will be no vote, it makes absolute sense

Some are doing a very good job of convincing themselves that it's the right thing to do.What they really think privately is a different matter.

Blimey a mind reader

Who knew we had such a person on GN?!

Just heard that Corbyn gave a speech to Momentum Conference just down the road from Labour Conference, and that it was mainly very young peiple there, and some old people but no age range inbetween.That Corbyn spouted a lot of Marxist claptrap.Things he believes but can't say at Conference.

Emily Thornberry now

Keep her speech in mind and compare and contrast it to Johnsons speech.

If you can't criticise the things they are talking about that really matter, like poverty, pay freezes, access to education and the NHS, because you know that they are right and that the situation is appalling and getting worse. Choose something they aren't talking abut and criticise them for not talking about it, even though you know nobody has a clue about what is happening or what is going to happen.

Thornberry just doing an embarrassing stand up routine, cringe! Why do they do it? ? Makes them look silly and as if there's nothing important to say.

Just heard that Corbyn gave a speech to Momentum Conference

Have you a link? Gossip really doesn't have much validity.