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EU wants us to pay 89 BILLION divorce charges.

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Day6 Fri 20-Oct-17 13:07:50

Walk away very quickly Theresa May. This is NOT ON. Blackmail or what?

How many of us knew that was the figure the EU demanded? Spite and greed...

From the Guardian. On Thursday morning, political allies of the German chancellor, Angela Merkel, confirmed that the EU wants the UK to agree to pay up to €100bn (£89.4bn) to settle the Brexit divorce bill.

89 BILLION........89 BILLION!!! Before Brussels will even consider a trade deal.

I see the Leaving the EU thread has been pulled because of personal insults.

We have to pull the plug on the EU because this is a divorce lawyers equivalent of pure spite and greed.

We will walk away with no deal and rightly so. Being held over a barrel by EU politicians is not on. We have made an a reasonable offer ...in billions, (£17b billion I believe) just to break away, before any trade deal is discussed. This is not acceptable to the greedy Brussels gravy train.

Now we are being held to ransom by Brussels,

No business man EVER would settle for a bad deal. No wonder talks have stalled.

Walk away very quickly Theresa May. This is blackmail.

WTO talks should begin asap. We will trade with the rest of the world. The EU is cutting off it's nose to spite it's face. Let it do so.

89 BILLION. It is beyond belief...That's what the EU wants just to settle the divorce bill before any trading agreement is reached. I would not want to do business with that firm of shysters.

No deal it is and rightly so. That is all we can consider in the face of EU spite and greed. Let's start afresh.

suzied Mon 23-Oct-17 12:25:22

So basically, Brextreemists expect everything to be the same then do they? Oh no, they expect everything to be the same apart from no one speaking non English languages on our streets.

HootyMcOwlface Mon 23-Oct-17 12:40:25

I hope all the leavers will be happy when we leave, and all the big multinational companies leave taking all the jobs, the stock markets crash and your pension is wiped out. I am sure there will be no tears from them about it as they will 'have their country back' - whatever that means. I am sure the wealthy amonsgt them won't mind at all, having stashed their millions in off shore accounts.

I think you leavers should watch this video, (i know it has been posted before) most of the things you are complaining about were proposed by your own government (mainly the Tories).

m.youtube.com/watch?feature=share&v=kgu6pFz5oxA

Firecracker123 Mon 23-Oct-17 12:55:57

Project Fear again how do I or any of us know what Britain will be like when we Leave. As for not speaking foreign languages anymore what a silly comment. My dil and her friends who come from Thailand wouldn't be too happy about that. Nor my Indian son in law.

petra Mon 23-Oct-17 12:58:40

HootyMcOwlface
I've been thinking about how my life will change, post brexit.
As I haven't bought anything grown or made in Europe since June 24th 2016 that trade won't affect me at all.
If my preferred countries of food produce costs more, so be it.
It looks as if we 'might' have to get an eu visa to travel into Europe. The figure being bandied around looks like £50, hardly a fortune is it?
If anyone would like to put forward any ideas where they think my life would change, please feel free with suggestions. No laughing at the back please, I can see you grin

whitewave Mon 23-Oct-17 13:01:56

petra how extraordinary!! You do realise that the food you are buying apart from domestic products have all been negotiated by the EU? So presumably you are limiting yourselves to U.K. produce only?

suzied Mon 23-Oct-17 13:27:24

If you don’t know what it will be like when we leave how do you know it will be so marvellous?
Petra have you bought any thing made in China? Will be made according to EU regs. Buy any gas or electricity owned by European companies? Travel on trains partly owned by other European companies?
Maybe you only drink tap water, grow all your own food and holiday in the garden. Good for you. Not everyone wants to live like that.

trisher Mon 23-Oct-17 13:37:11

Ok petra so most of us do buy food from EU countries. When this food source stops or is highly taxed you will find that the food you are buying from any country will increase in price. as this happens all the people involved in transporting the food will lose their jobs. At the same time small businesses currently exporting to the EU will be faced with huge transport bills to export elsewhere or with huge import taxes for the EU. Either way their profits will drop and they may go out of business. There will be a substantial reduction in investment in the arts and education. So yet more unemployment. In other words the country will fall into recession and the pound in your pocket will be worth less and less.
If this doesn't bother you that's fine.
And perhaps some of us care more about how others lives will be affected as well as our own.

durhamjen Mon 23-Oct-17 13:46:34

You must have an incredibly limited diet, petra.
Do you never eat olives when you are in the UK, or aubergines?

Firecracker123 Mon 23-Oct-17 14:02:40

I always try and buy British as well especially fruit and veg. Even made sure we bought British tyres for our car. Every little helps so they say. We should all buy British whenever we can.

durhamjen Mon 23-Oct-17 14:04:08

infacts.org/brexit-not-eu-thats-punishing-us/

HootyMcOwlface Mon 23-Oct-17 14:17:13

All very well saying you buy British produce, but don't you realise most of it is picked by low paid workers mainly from the EU. If they are not here anymore post brexit who will harvest it in? It'll be left to rot in the fields. British workers don't want to do it, it is hard backbreaking work - shall we bus all you brexiteers out to do it instead?

durhamjen Mon 23-Oct-17 14:22:35

Good idea, Hooty.

Last week I finished the last of my apples from my tree. So I ordered some this week, organic, like mine are.
They came all the way from New Zealand, one of the countries we are going to be able to import from after Brexit.
Oh, wait...?

Margs Mon 23-Oct-17 14:59:24

And Chancellor Hammond reckons the WASPI Women haven't a hope of a fair deal as regards the shameless withholding of pensions until age 66 because it would cost approximately 30 billion?!

But it's OK to chuck much bigger and eye-watering amounts at the Great Bloated Brussels Gravy Train?

durhamjen Mon 23-Oct-17 15:06:43

They have nothing to do with each other, as Brexiteers will find out after we leave.

durhamjen Mon 23-Oct-17 15:28:45

IF we leave, of course.

www.politico.eu/article/5-reasons-why-no-deal-could-mean-no-brexit/

durhamjen Mon 23-Oct-17 16:14:29

brc.org.uk/news/2017/brexit-border-controls-risk-gaps-on-shelves#_ftn1

petra Mon 23-Oct-17 16:26:14

durhamjen
Thank you for the interest in my diet.
Aubergines are grown in the greenhouse ( but not by me)
Olives and olive oil are bought online from morocco.
I'm sure you'll agree that you can't have a dry martini without an olive.

durhamjen Mon 23-Oct-17 16:32:20

But the UK will have to have a new trade agreement with Morocco, as at the moment it will be through the EU. Even if bought online.

lemongrove Mon 23-Oct-17 17:06:04

Hooty regards workers ( agricultural) there are already loads of mainly Eastern European workers here, who may well stay here after we leave the EU.
If we do need more, then they could come for a few months to do the fruit/veg picking, seasonal workers always used to do this.The food will not rot in the fields.

lemongrove Mon 23-Oct-17 17:07:03

Mmmn, Petra a dry martini with an olive, I want one now!

suzied Mon 23-Oct-17 17:16:05

Martini rosso or bianco? methinks this is an Italian drink. Very nice too.

HootyMcOwlface Mon 23-Oct-17 17:33:49

lemon umm yes, "may" being the operative word. Many have already gone home, as have NHS workers. But I suppose you may have private health care and are not bothered about that.

durhamjen Mon 23-Oct-17 18:15:52

www.politico.eu/article/cargo-food-production-producers-brexit-burns-irelands-british-bridge-to-eu-markets/

Problems for Ireland getting produce to EU as well after Brexit.

MaizieD Mon 23-Oct-17 18:35:05

there are already loads of mainly Eastern European workers here, who may well stay here after we leave the EU.

There may well be loads of EU workers here already but they are not the seasonal workers needed by farmers. Judging from the headlines over the summer there was a 10 - 20% shortfall in the numbers of EU seasonal workers needed this year.

If we do need more, then they could come for a few months to do the fruit/veg picking, seasonal workers always used to do this.

They already do that. Those are the workers we were short of.

durhamjen Mon 23-Oct-17 18:42:19

They might have to end up paying them more than the minimum wage to bribe them - which will obviously put up the price of food.