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EU wants us to pay 89 BILLION divorce charges.

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Day6 Fri 20-Oct-17 13:07:50

Walk away very quickly Theresa May. This is NOT ON. Blackmail or what?

How many of us knew that was the figure the EU demanded? Spite and greed...

From the Guardian. On Thursday morning, political allies of the German chancellor, Angela Merkel, confirmed that the EU wants the UK to agree to pay up to €100bn (£89.4bn) to settle the Brexit divorce bill.

89 BILLION........89 BILLION!!! Before Brussels will even consider a trade deal.

I see the Leaving the EU thread has been pulled because of personal insults.

We have to pull the plug on the EU because this is a divorce lawyers equivalent of pure spite and greed.

We will walk away with no deal and rightly so. Being held over a barrel by EU politicians is not on. We have made an a reasonable offer ...in billions, (£17b billion I believe) just to break away, before any trade deal is discussed. This is not acceptable to the greedy Brussels gravy train.

Now we are being held to ransom by Brussels,

No business man EVER would settle for a bad deal. No wonder talks have stalled.

Walk away very quickly Theresa May. This is blackmail.

WTO talks should begin asap. We will trade with the rest of the world. The EU is cutting off it's nose to spite it's face. Let it do so.

89 BILLION. It is beyond belief...That's what the EU wants just to settle the divorce bill before any trading agreement is reached. I would not want to do business with that firm of shysters.

No deal it is and rightly so. That is all we can consider in the face of EU spite and greed. Let's start afresh.

Jalima1108 Mon 23-Oct-17 18:44:18

As my friend calls them the bigotted and the braindead ...or simply misinformed and misguided
I am shocked that anyone is still carrying on in this vein, however carefully they word their criticism of people who voted Brexit, usually mentioning that it is 'a friend' who makes these claims not themselves hmm.
I have several friends who did vote Brexit and they are extremely well-educated with life-long experience of working in industry (the top echelons of business in fact) in this country and abroad.
I respect and listen to their views even if I do not agree with all of them.

Please stop all this vile rhetoric - it makes me ashamed of saying that I voted remain.

durhamjen Mon 23-Oct-17 18:49:36

I don't respect the views of Boris, David Davis or Liam Fox.
They are the main cause of this problem, and I haven't changed my view of them.
They don't respect those who voted remain.

suzied Mon 23-Oct-17 18:55:29

Anecdotal evidence - my friends voted Brexit and they all have PhDs etc
I could say 2 people I know who voted Brexit - both dim racists.
Doesn’t prove anything.

varian Mon 23-Oct-17 19:02:44

Jalima might have some well educated brexit voting friends but that does not disprove the statistics which show that poorly educated people, especially those who read the Sun, DM and DE, were the most likely to be swayed by the brexit billionaires' propaganda and voted the way they were told - like turkeys voting for Xmas,.

NfkDumpling Mon 23-Oct-17 19:27:14

Most people I meet who didn't have a clue which way to vote, voted remain, the status quo, the devil they knew. I think this theory that the uninformed voted out is Remainers propaganda.

NfkDumpling Mon 23-Oct-17 19:27:44

(Ducks back behind the parapet)

lemongrove Mon 23-Oct-17 19:34:25

Am sure there are plenty of dim Remainers around, if we are still throwing all these words around.Ones who couldn’t be bothered to think about it, or were frightened by the thought of doing anything differently.
We had the referendum, the Leave vote won the day, so why oh why are we still talking about thus in terms of insults?
Move on.

durhamjen Mon 23-Oct-17 19:35:13

I think you'll find we say that we were all uninformed.

durhamjen Mon 23-Oct-17 19:36:03

Move on, then, lemon. You don't have to comment on it.

petra Mon 23-Oct-17 19:36:13

NfkDumpling
Don't you have a sofa grin

lemongrove Mon 23-Oct-17 19:37:13

No food will rot in the fields, and if the farmers need to pay more for workers, then so be it.Picking veg /fruit is a rotten cold job for anyone to do.

lemongrove Mon 23-Oct-17 19:38:10

?Petra

suzied Mon 23-Oct-17 19:53:23

Petra’s still sipping her Italian drinks.

durhamjen Mon 23-Oct-17 19:58:45

Must be quite old, suzie. She hasn't bought anything grown or made in the EU since the referendum.

counterpoint Mon 23-Oct-17 20:02:23

More pages, and still nobody has said who it is we are going to trade with that we can't now.

POGS Mon 23-Oct-17 20:23:57

"statistics which show that poorly educated people, especially those who read the Sun, DM and DE, were the most likely to be swayed by the brexit billionaires' "

Varian I'm surprised you omitted the words racist , Xenophobes' which are usually included in the patronising mantra repeated time and again on the copious threads ' by some' who like to engage in making accusation about Brexiteers .

No doubt someone will be along soon.

Anniebach Mon 23-Oct-17 20:29:20

I don't read those papers, not well educated, voted to remain Varian

lemongrove Mon 23-Oct-17 20:30:09

?

durhamjen Mon 23-Oct-17 20:37:07

www.jrf.org.uk/press/people-pushed-margins-driven-vote-brexit

www.jrf.org.uk/report/brexit-vote-explained-poverty-low-skills-and-lack-opportunities

www.jrf.org.uk/report/uk-2017-general-election-vote-examined

petra Mon 23-Oct-17 21:27:45

Suzied
I'm afraid your assumption is wrong. The vermouth and gin we buy are both made in the uk.

POGS Mon 23-Oct-17 21:44:38

If the Joseph Rowntree Foundation cared to ask me how I voted as a reader of the Daily Mail , along with other papers, I would have told them I voted Remain. Did they ask the 33 million people who voted ?

In my opinion it matters not how well educated a person may be, how much a person may earn, which political party they vote for, what papers they read you can still be a bigot.

durhamjen Mon 23-Oct-17 22:03:35

If you bothered reading the reports, POGS, you would see how they get their information, from reputable research companies.
You really are just being silly there.
I thought such comments would be beneath you.

durhamjen Tue 24-Oct-17 07:54:01

"The research, by Professor Matthew Goodwin at the University of Kent and Dr Oliver Heath at the Royal Holloway University for JRF, is one of the first academic analysis looking at the role of the characteristics of people and places in the Leave vote. Drawing on data from the British Election Study (BES), the research drilled down into the backgrounds, attitudes and values of Leave voters, painting a detailed picture of what motivated their decision at the referendum."

Are you going to make childish remarks about them, too?

suzied Tue 24-Oct-17 08:12:47

petra I wonder who owns the “made in UK company”? Hope they’re using the Italian recipe under licence! I trust you drive a Morgan sports car as that’s the only car owned by a UK company and made in UK. ( I would like one of those but there’s a huge waiting list)

Firecracker123 Tue 24-Oct-17 08:46:26

varian do you sneer at White van man like Emlyn Thornbury did, do you sneer at the girl behind Tesco's because she's only a checkout girl, do you sneer at the man in the newsagents when buying your Guardian paper because he only works behind a counter, do you sneer at fellow customers buying different papers to you because you think you are superior to them. Do you sneer at the porters in the hospital and the nursing assistant in the old peoples home who might have to wash and feed you and the bus driver who drove you there because they only do manual jobs. Are these the turkeys you are talking about.