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Prince Harry’s engagement

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MawBroon Mon 27-Nov-17 10:23:29

Hope this is not “fake news” but relief from the endless speculation.
Good luck to them! ??

Anniebach Tue 28-Nov-17 17:46:14

She is to be baptised and confirmed before the wedding, will become a British citizen and the royal family will pay for the wedding, even for the flowers, so I read

Grandma70s Tue 28-Nov-17 18:01:02

My instinct is that Harry’s attraction to her, which I concede is genuine, is too looks-based. That’s not really a good basis for a lasting marriage.

willsmadnan Tue 28-Nov-17 18:03:16

You know that for a fact do you jimmyrfu? This bloody stupid word is yet another bit of meaningless media jargon that's crept into our language. Well my DOH had a failed marriage behind him when he met me ... he wasn't a 'keeper' for me for 53 years... so that blows your theory about divorcees out of the water. And as for pre-nups .... angry angry

sarahellenwhitney Tue 28-Nov-17 18:14:04

Charleygirl
Unlike Kate, who until she became involved with William . Ms Markle, as an actress and filming scenes that involved nudity, being on camera was water off a ducks back.
On or off work. constantly being photographed is her life She is no Miss Timid, very confident .and no doubt unconcerned her image is now possibly in every newspaper across the globe. This is just the start.

willsmadnan Tue 28-Nov-17 18:14:33

Dear God, I think I'm going to stop posting on this thread. Some of the postings are beyond belief... Grandma70s - what's the first thing you notice about a bloke, or a girl in a crowded bar, a dance hall, at the water cooler? Their fine intellect? Umm , don't think so. It's physical attraction, then personality after the initial chat-up line, and then sheer lust ,which in the end usually settles down to a loving compatible relationship. Maybe poor Megan would be treated more sympathetically if she looked like the south end of a north-bound camel.

Jane10 Tue 28-Nov-17 18:29:47

She's applying for British citizenship. Does that make her an economic migrant?! Bet that will be rushed through.

maryeliza54 Tue 28-Nov-17 18:36:12

I wish I understood the issue of remarriage of a divorced person in the Anglican Church. I have looked it all up and my understanding is that after the Genersl Synod of 2002, the church agreed that divorced people could be remarried in church if the priest agreed and there were exceptional circumstance. So no automatic right. Is this correct? If so, then I suppose the exceptional circumstances here are who the grooms dgm and df are?

Anniebach Tue 28-Nov-17 18:38:46

I think Harry has been reigned in and will do as his new wife tells him , also think she will come between him and his family.

sarahellenwhitney Tue 28-Nov-17 18:39:02

Nightowl Your apology accepted.
Lady Diana Spencer on her marriage to Prince Charles was given the title HRH Diana Princess of Wales She was born with the title Lady which would not be relevant on her marriage to a prince.She was referred to throughout her short life and is still, in death, Princess Diana
Take a trip to Althorpe where she is buried and observe for yourself
In my previous thread was information that Princess Diana was stripped of HRH following her divorce from Charles.

Anniebach Tue 28-Nov-17 18:41:59

Not right Maryeliza, yes if the priest agreed but the exceptional circumstances are not their families but if neither was the cause of the breakup of the first marriage.

pollyperkins Tue 28-Nov-17 18:42:13

Well it's been announced that the royal family will foot the bill so that's one moan which has been disproved. It ont cost the tax payer and may bring money into the country.

Anniebach Tue 28-Nov-17 18:45:03

Diana was not a princess, she was married to the prince of Wales so took his surname really, Diana , princess of Wales, princess Diana is incorrect

merlotgran Tue 28-Nov-17 18:48:53

I think Harry has been reigned in and will do as his new wife tells him , also think she will come between him and his family.

What a pessimistic view, anniebach. Who knows how their relationship will develop and why on earth should she come between him and his family?

merlotgran Tue 28-Nov-17 18:53:23

They are doing their first engagement together on Friday so she's hitting the ground running. Good for them!

One question....As they are going to be branded as Prince Harry and Meghan Markle before their marriage will that mean that the charity work he has been doing as a threesome with William and Kate have to be rebranded?

Up until now it has been the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and Prince Harry.

sarahellenwhitney Tue 28-Nov-17 18:54:06

Anniebach
I have observed in various todays newspapers there were comments from the public of Ms Markle 'taking over' the TV interview. Not a good sign.
When one recalls how dignified Kate is whenever in the company of her husband, allowing him to take the reins I certainly hope that things will change in this new relationship and any doubts or fears unfounded. Harry does not need any more upsets in his life.

maryeliza54 Tue 28-Nov-17 18:54:31

Sorry annie I was being sarcastic - I know exceptional circumstances was to cover things like divorcing because of violence or being abandoned. I know you have previously posted that you believe in the sanctity of the marriage vows ( or words to that effect) and I do think that the Anglican Church should decide if they do - she had a short marriage which ended mutually( or so the media say) - what’s exceptional about that? I know you know I am not religious but I would never misuse the Church - I thought it was dreadful,when I was younger and people I knew got married in church because the church was nicer than the local registry office but they had no beliefs at all . I think allowing all sorts of places to be licensed for weddings was a great move as it gave an alternative to the ‘church tourists’.

Anniebach Tue 28-Nov-17 18:56:22

Sorry merlotgran, I do not trust her , did you hear her friend give an interview? Full of praise , how dedicated she is, how sweet etc and how when she sets her mind on something she gets it. Yes I could be so wrong and hope I am but I think Harry is really a vunerable and needy person, not strong minded , she is not vunerable and needy but very strong minded

maryeliza54 Tue 28-Nov-17 18:58:22

I think the RF have played a blinder - paying (some of) the costs of the wedding and choosing St G’s as its much less ‘showy’ and will not disrupt central London. Funny idea though, a family financed wedding confused

Jalima1108 Tue 28-Nov-17 19:00:30

I'm not sure maryeliza but I do know that a couple we know married in church - a second marriage for both of them. It was a a full service, not a blessing, so presumably at the discretion of the vicar.

Jalima1108 Tue 28-Nov-17 19:00:41

C of E btw

Jalima1108 Tue 28-Nov-17 19:01:31

I don' know what the 'exceptional circumstances' were in that case, none that I can think of.

maryeliza54 Tue 28-Nov-17 19:01:39

Oh ‘waity Katie’ clotheshorse - some role model

maryeliza54 Tue 28-Nov-17 19:03:40

That’s what I mean Jal it all seems a bit all over the place - I think the C of E should discuss it all again at their next synod

merlotgran Tue 28-Nov-17 19:05:48

Maybe that's what he needs though, Annie. She's successful and confident and unlike any former future royal brides has made her own money.

There will no doubt be some muttering from the old guard at the palace and maybe a few ruffled feathers but she could be a welcome breath of fresh air.

Anniebach Tue 28-Nov-17 19:06:01

Maryeliza, I admit I had problems coming to terms with the churches acceptance of marriage of divorcees, I later accepted it was unfair to stop an innocent party in a divorce from having a church wedding but only if they attended church. I believe the marriage vows taken before God to be for life but if a husband abuses his wife it would be wrong to expect the wife to stay in such a marriage. The divorce by mutual consent is the big problem , often just an easier way to end a marriage , difficult.