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Prince Harry’s engagement

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MawBroon Mon 27-Nov-17 10:23:29

Hope this is not “fake news” but relief from the endless speculation.
Good luck to them! ??

merlotgran Tue 28-Nov-17 19:31:34

Why would Meghan need to keep Harry? Honestly, Annie you'd argue the hind legs off a donkey.

My point about her having earned her own money was simply to point out that she's an independent and successful young woman.

Jalima1108 Tue 28-Nov-17 19:30:48

I think he's Henry Wales, not Prince of Wales

Duke of Sussex sounds just fine
There is also a ready-made song to go with it grin
Although I think Hereford has a ring to it myself.

maryeliza54 Tue 28-Nov-17 19:29:25

Sussex?

Anniebach Tue 28-Nov-17 19:23:41

Will Clarence be chosen, think it has been avoided since Victoria's son acquired a reputation and not a good one. Wonder what will be chosen, Edward is set to be Duke of Edinburgh when his father dies , can't really see them choosing Hereford , Sussex ? Not right really. They will have to find something or Megan will be princess Henry of Wales, no comment

Anniebach Tue 28-Nov-17 19:10:22

Merlotgran, Diana was not a penniless nusery maid, I doubt Megan made enough money to keep Harry in the life he knows , he is far wealthier than she. Doubt any Windsor brides marry for money, but they do for the status .

Jalima1108 Tue 28-Nov-17 19:07:42

They are divorced now
hmm

Jalima1108 Tue 28-Nov-17 19:06:47

Presumably he will be made the Duke of Wherever when he gets married.
Which Dukedoms are vacant?

Clarence, Hereford, Sussex?

Anniebach Tue 28-Nov-17 19:06:01

Maryeliza, I admit I had problems coming to terms with the churches acceptance of marriage of divorcees, I later accepted it was unfair to stop an innocent party in a divorce from having a church wedding but only if they attended church. I believe the marriage vows taken before God to be for life but if a husband abuses his wife it would be wrong to expect the wife to stay in such a marriage. The divorce by mutual consent is the big problem , often just an easier way to end a marriage , difficult.

merlotgran Tue 28-Nov-17 19:05:48

Maybe that's what he needs though, Annie. She's successful and confident and unlike any former future royal brides has made her own money.

There will no doubt be some muttering from the old guard at the palace and maybe a few ruffled feathers but she could be a welcome breath of fresh air.

maryeliza54 Tue 28-Nov-17 19:03:40

That’s what I mean Jal it all seems a bit all over the place - I think the C of E should discuss it all again at their next synod

maryeliza54 Tue 28-Nov-17 19:01:39

Oh ‘waity Katie’ clotheshorse - some role model

Jalima1108 Tue 28-Nov-17 19:01:31

I don' know what the 'exceptional circumstances' were in that case, none that I can think of.

Jalima1108 Tue 28-Nov-17 19:00:41

C of E btw

Jalima1108 Tue 28-Nov-17 19:00:30

I'm not sure maryeliza but I do know that a couple we know married in church - a second marriage for both of them. It was a a full service, not a blessing, so presumably at the discretion of the vicar.

maryeliza54 Tue 28-Nov-17 18:58:22

I think the RF have played a blinder - paying (some of) the costs of the wedding and choosing St G’s as its much less ‘showy’ and will not disrupt central London. Funny idea though, a family financed wedding confused

Anniebach Tue 28-Nov-17 18:56:22

Sorry merlotgran, I do not trust her , did you hear her friend give an interview? Full of praise , how dedicated she is, how sweet etc and how when she sets her mind on something she gets it. Yes I could be so wrong and hope I am but I think Harry is really a vunerable and needy person, not strong minded , she is not vunerable and needy but very strong minded

maryeliza54 Tue 28-Nov-17 18:54:31

Sorry annie I was being sarcastic - I know exceptional circumstances was to cover things like divorcing because of violence or being abandoned. I know you have previously posted that you believe in the sanctity of the marriage vows ( or words to that effect) and I do think that the Anglican Church should decide if they do - she had a short marriage which ended mutually( or so the media say) - what’s exceptional about that? I know you know I am not religious but I would never misuse the Church - I thought it was dreadful,when I was younger and people I knew got married in church because the church was nicer than the local registry office but they had no beliefs at all . I think allowing all sorts of places to be licensed for weddings was a great move as it gave an alternative to the ‘church tourists’.

sarahellenwhitney Tue 28-Nov-17 18:54:06

Anniebach
I have observed in various todays newspapers there were comments from the public of Ms Markle 'taking over' the TV interview. Not a good sign.
When one recalls how dignified Kate is whenever in the company of her husband, allowing him to take the reins I certainly hope that things will change in this new relationship and any doubts or fears unfounded. Harry does not need any more upsets in his life.

merlotgran Tue 28-Nov-17 18:53:23

They are doing their first engagement together on Friday so she's hitting the ground running. Good for them!

One question....As they are going to be branded as Prince Harry and Meghan Markle before their marriage will that mean that the charity work he has been doing as a threesome with William and Kate have to be rebranded?

Up until now it has been the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and Prince Harry.

merlotgran Tue 28-Nov-17 18:48:53

I think Harry has been reigned in and will do as his new wife tells him , also think she will come between him and his family.

What a pessimistic view, anniebach. Who knows how their relationship will develop and why on earth should she come between him and his family?

Anniebach Tue 28-Nov-17 18:45:03

Diana was not a princess, she was married to the prince of Wales so took his surname really, Diana , princess of Wales, princess Diana is incorrect

pollyperkins Tue 28-Nov-17 18:42:13

Well it's been announced that the royal family will foot the bill so that's one moan which has been disproved. It ont cost the tax payer and may bring money into the country.

Anniebach Tue 28-Nov-17 18:41:59

Not right Maryeliza, yes if the priest agreed but the exceptional circumstances are not their families but if neither was the cause of the breakup of the first marriage.

sarahellenwhitney Tue 28-Nov-17 18:39:02

Nightowl Your apology accepted.
Lady Diana Spencer on her marriage to Prince Charles was given the title HRH Diana Princess of Wales She was born with the title Lady which would not be relevant on her marriage to a prince.She was referred to throughout her short life and is still, in death, Princess Diana
Take a trip to Althorpe where she is buried and observe for yourself
In my previous thread was information that Princess Diana was stripped of HRH following her divorce from Charles.

Anniebach Tue 28-Nov-17 18:38:46

I think Harry has been reigned in and will do as his new wife tells him , also think she will come between him and his family.