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Has the Conservative Party lost all sense of competence

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GracesGranMK2 Sat 02-Dec-17 10:10:45

This is not an attack on individuals but on the ethos of conservatism. Since the war the CP has created the myth that they are competent. Recently we have seen:

Incompetence with the economy.
Incompetence with benefits
Incompetence with state pensions
Incompetence with support for business and industry via infrastructure
Incompetence in many areas with government administration
Incompetence with transport
Incompetence in the criminal justice system
Incompetence in defence
Incompetence in education
Incompetence in the NHS
Incompetence in running their own election

I am sure there are other areas. Why does anyone vote for this incompetence? Surely we deserve better?
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durhamjen Tue 12-Dec-17 21:01:04

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/dec/11/i-havent-been-coping-three-voices-from-grenfell-tower-fire-survivors-families-inquiry

durhamjen Tue 12-Dec-17 21:01:28

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/dec/12/steven-mcguirk-grenfell-expert-alleged-support-cuts-fire-union

durhamjen Tue 12-Dec-17 21:02:04

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/dec/11/homeless-because-of-a-tragedy-struggle-to-rehouse-grenfell-survivors-continues

durhamjen Tue 12-Dec-17 21:02:26

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/dec/11/grenfell-tower-police-investigating-corporate-manslaughter-offences

durhamjen Tue 12-Dec-17 22:06:59

Natasha Elcock

Elcock, who escaped from her 11th-floor flat with her boyfriend and six-year-old daughter, is still living in temporary accommodation but she hopes to move to somewhere permanent near her old flat at the beginning of next year. She knows she is in a better position than most survivors.

“For me it has been OK, but I made sure that my voice was heard from the beginning. I pushed and pushed and got myself where I need to be. I am conscious that a lot of people are not in such a good situation,” she said.

“Four out of five are awaiting permanent homes. There were a lot of promises and extensions to dates and times given in the early days. It needs to speed up. I know that it will take a while to secure homes, but I understand why some people are reluctant to trust the council. They let us down before the fire, during the fire and after the fire.”

durhamjen Fri 15-Dec-17 17:31:08

Incompetence with housing and homelessness, not just for Grenfell survivors but the whole of London, and the country.

www.24housing.co.uk/news/charities-united-to-tackle-homelessness-in-london/

durhamjen Sat 16-Dec-17 12:27:38

www.weownit.org.uk has a petition to sign about the East coast mainline, which is being handed back to the government as Stagecoach and Virgin are losing money on it already.
The petition is to ask the government to nationalise it, as that is the way it made a profit, before Virgin got its hands on it.
Please sign if you agree with me that it should go back to government ownership.
Not assuming it will of course, until the Labour government get in and we get rid of this incompetent government.

trisher Sat 16-Dec-17 12:46:35

Signed thanks! Can't believe Virgin are asking for money to keep it going. Doesn't he make enough out of the tax payer already?

Nandalot Sat 16-Dec-17 13:18:07

I wanted to sign DJ but I keep getting an error message, I think because I tick the box for no further contact.

durhamjen Sat 16-Dec-17 13:41:32

Nandalot, if you click the link, then go on act now on the top line, you will go directly to the petition - I hope. You just need to put your email in.
When I put it on here there were fewer than 2000 signatures. Now it's 3400+

durhamjen Sun 17-Dec-17 09:49:19

How to get youngsters on your side - make them pay into a pension from the age of 18 providing they are earning more than £10,000.
What's the minimum wage for 18-21 year olds?
£7.05 an hour.
£3.50 an hour for apprentices.
Or paying to go to university.

I wonder who thought that one out.

jura2 Wed 20-Dec-17 21:02:37

Damian Green has resigned - wow that tiny majority is getting VERY thin...

maryeliza54 Wed 20-Dec-17 21:05:34

Bye bye Mr Green - liar and TM’s close friend and trusted ally. Still I expect someon will be along in a minute to excuse him

suzied Wed 20-Dec-17 21:08:35

Didn’t DD promise to resign if Green goes? (hope)

maryeliza54 Wed 20-Dec-17 21:10:37

Hahaha - I’d forgotten that. Of course I believe absolutely that DG did not download the porn <straightens face>

maryeliza54 Wed 20-Dec-17 21:13:29

jura he’s only resigned from the cabinet - he’s allowed to carry on being a Conservative MP because being a liar is perfectly acceptable in that role.

maryeliza54 Wed 20-Dec-17 21:23:22

Oh and Ms Maltby’s account was found to be ‘plausible’ so a liar and a dirty old man - and TM says she’s sad. He said the policemen were lying, he misled the country - yep that makes me sad too

jura2 Wed 20-Dec-17 21:47:13

now for the next episode - I know he is a inveterate liar- but David Davis did promise he would go if Green was pushed (and he was ... 'resignation' my foot)...

maryeliza54 Wed 20-Dec-17 21:58:33

It’s clear he was sacked - the phrase in the letter was ‘asked to resign’. It’s only little people who actually get properly sacked

durhamjen Wed 20-Dec-17 22:02:33

"Forced to resign", it says.

durhamjen Wed 20-Dec-17 22:03:07

I bet they knew at PMQs.

maryeliza54 Wed 20-Dec-17 22:05:28

The letter says asked to resign which equals sacked. Of course they knew at PMQ

Tegan2 Wed 20-Dec-17 22:16:37

Laura Kuensberg [sp] just said on the news that it isn't really a big deal. Talk about playing things down. Mind you, in the grand scheme of things in the Conservative Party total lack of competence it is just a drop in the ocean.

durhamjen Wed 20-Dec-17 22:25:58

Nothing like admitting she supports the Tories.

maryeliza54 Wed 20-Dec-17 22:27:13

LK is a plant from Conservative Central Office. Also just heard IDS doing a massive minimisation job on this - DG lied, he lied to Parliament, he lied to us . What’s not to minimise?

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