58 Brexit Impact Studies

Well, that’s what you keep saying ww but not what everyone else is saying.
We had very little influence over the EU and will do much better out of it.
Now, why are the Remainers on here not happy that we are having a softer Brexit then they feared?
Could it be that the prospect of an early GE has now been put paid to? Or just that moaning had become a popular sport?

Who says the remainers aren't happier with a softer Brexit? We aren't happy with Brexit full stop - but a softer one is better than the immense act of self harm that a "hard" Brexit would mean, and it will mean we have to adhere to the EU regulations for many years to come. I'm surprised the Leavers on here are happy with what seems to be the UK making all the concessions and being shown to be the much weaker partner.

I am perfectly content that if we have to leave the EU that we will be having the softest of brexits, but I have to question what Brexiters think they have achieved, as I can’t think of a single reason to be happy if I had voted for Brexit, in fact if I felt that we had insufficient influence whilst a full member of the EU the worse case scenario for me would be the Norway option which at present in on the cards

Nigel Farage calls the concessions - "humiliating"

Fortunately, most of the country doesn’t post or read twitter messages. Most of them are are posted by the same stirrers who have multiple accounts / aliases.
lilihu - yes, why would anything on there be taken as true fact?

Thanks, I am afraid I am not on Twitter.
That is probably very wise jura2

After all, most of it is just opinion.

If Farage thinks this is bad, it may not be good, but at least it can't be as bad as whatever nightmare scenario he wanted.

Petra, Read some German newspapers and you will find that Schultz's ideas are described by many as 'absurd' and 'laughable'.
Petra Greta
A prime example of the kind of 'opinion' that is on Twitter.

The government has done impact assessments on drains and comedy but not Brexit

www.libdems.org.uk/government-impact-assessments-drains-comedy-not-brexit

Greta
I think the words absurd and laughable were used to describe the idears that Donald Trump put forward: look what happened there.

infacts.org/hey-brexiters-please-remind-us-whats-point-brexit/

Déjà vu , I thought I just saw that!

Who cares what Nigel Farage thinks?

Everybody I know is happy to be going through to the second stage of negotiations, and so are the Leavers on GN.

jackofkent.com/2017/12/theres-a-hole-in-my-brexit/

For those who do not appreciate Fascinating Aida.
No swearwords, unless you count Brexit.

fullfact.org/europe/brexit-impact-assessments/

After last night's Question Time.

^That shows that you don’t understand the deal so far then MaizieD>

I rather think that it's you who doesn't understand the deal, lemon

The problem of the Irish border isn't solved, it's just deferred for the present. It is the Irish border which will keep us completely aligned to the EU until a solution has been found. With all that implies.

From what you've been saying over the past year or so and your greeting of the 'agreement' with such equanimity, I conclude that the only reason you voted Leave was so that you could say that we're not a member of the EU.

Because under the present deal we will be bound by EU regulations and treated as though we are still a member, still paying for access to the single market (in addition to the 'exit bill',) and subject to the ECJ. The wording might be different but the effect is the same.

All that fuss and expense and angst and division just so that lemongrove can say that we're not a member of the EU (even though we are in all but name).

Quack quack

All May has achieved is to get to phase 2, and save her political skin for now. We won’t know what she will achieve in phase 2, probably agree to whatever the EU says as the government have no plans if we are to believe DD last week. To be fair, many people didn’t think she would get to phase 2, given the demands of the hard line Brexit bunch not to make any concessions, pay no money, walk away etc. The EU don’t want the May government to fall as then they might be dealing with someone stronger.
Some good news - the EU have just signed a free trade deal with Japan, one of the largest national economies. Good for all those Japanese car companies in Europe then.

So Nissan moving to mainland Europe soon, then. I bet the people of Sunderland will be feeling silly.
Of course, it will all be the EU's fault when they lose their jobs.

Well, there are over 17 million others, not just me Maizie
Who will be happy to be out of the EU! Quite a lot of us I think you will agree.
There had to be compromises, and there will be from both sides as we go forward.

Happy to be out in name only?

Not 17 million any more, and the population is over 66 million.

And the '17 million' aren't exactly unanimous in approving this 'agreement'. In fact, many of them are furious because they have actually realised the fact that it has a very strong potential to keep us within the sphere of the EU for at least the next decade.

So some of them, at least, are showing signs of a certain amount of intelligence.

The Brexit bunch are divided over this, but I guess many of them are happy to go along keeping their feeling of victory, even if it is a fudge, and nothing much changes. Its common sense not to want an Irish border, would be turning back the clock in a bad way. May is in a lose- lose situation as she’s never going to please everyone.

From what I have seen the Citizen's rights have not really been solved at all. At the moment those living in Ireland will have more rights than anyone else living in UK or EU with a British passport!! They it seems will keep both the UK passport and full EU citizenship which is not quite what the rest will get. As they say - the devil is in the detail.

Andrew Marr challenged DD about the 58 impact studies and was told that he hadn't meant what he had said.

Nobody should ever believe anything DD says. A lot of people seem to think all politicians lie all the time but none of them has ever been so blatant and got away with it.