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Have we always had so many messages?

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GracesGranMK2 Sat 30-Dec-17 22:36:56

I like the fact that the Queen makes a speech at Christmas - mainly because we don't hear from her very often but May has given us a "Christmas message" and now we are going to get a New Year one too. Couldn't the politicians just shut up over the holidays?

durhamjen Sun 31-Dec-17 11:08:40

Why was it mocking?
It's true.

I regard her speeches as bedtime stories; they are all fantasy.
If she thinks she stands up for the ordinary person, she's living in fairytale land.

Perhaps it's time, Annie, that you stopped pretending you stand for the ordinary working class person, as you seem to stand up for anyone who supports May.

trisher Sun 31-Dec-17 11:12:37

It's quite simple. If you employ all these advisors and speech writers you have to give them something to do and as nobody has a clue about Brexit or what is really happening writing a meaningless speech with a few platitudes in it is all they can manage.

durhamjen Sun 31-Dec-17 11:15:11

GracesGran, just did a search for your question, and Richard Coles tweeted a similar question last year, but about when did politicians start doing a Christmas speech.
One of the responses was 'about the same time members of pop bands became vicars'.
It's a cheerful read.

Anniebach Sun 31-Dec-17 11:20:53

So Corbyn's new year message - he is taking the centre ground ! Is this where the many are?

durhamjen Sun 31-Dec-17 11:34:43

This is a much more important Christmas message.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/dec/20/grenfell-children-to-broadcast-alternative-christmas-message

durhamjen Sun 31-Dec-17 11:35:52

Trisher, are the speechwriters not allowed time off between Christmas and New year?

durhamjen Sun 31-Dec-17 11:50:18

"But we are being held back by a self-serving elite, who look after themselves and their friends and a failed system which delivers staggering wealth at the top, while more and more people struggle to simply make ends meet."

From Corbyn's speech. I
What's not to agree with in this?

trisher Sun 31-Dec-17 11:54:30

They probably write the stuff in October and are only required if there is a major incident over the holiday that has to be hastily added. It's not as if they have a lot of other stuff to do. As Brexit chaos develops watch out for a Chinese New Year Speech, an Easter Speech, a summer break speech, the possibilities are endless...

durhamjen Sun 31-Dec-17 12:10:10

And May will have to do a lot of travelling in the EU as her speeches are always named after the city in which she makes them.
Where is she going in January?
Do you think she will list all the utilities the Chinese own in her Chinese New Year speech in February? To show us how well we are doing in trading with China?

POGS Mon 01-Jan-18 16:17:38

Thread title

Have we always had so many messages?

Yes . All Parties of any co!our in Government and Shadow Government have done so, other political parties and Devolved Government Leaders , they will continue to do so until Xmas is banned.

Elegran

" There is no need to watch, listen to or read all these messages."

I agree , if that makes me perceive other people intentions in an extreme manner or telling us others to stop getting het up then I am happy to share your company.

GracesGranMK2 Mon 01-Jan-18 18:47:04

Have you been one of the people to go on the 'anonymity' thread and declare you are never rude POGS?

Jalima1108 Mon 01-Jan-18 19:44:38

They always seem to pass me by, although I did listen to HM this year as she was on as we sat down for after lunch (dinner?) coffee.

Jalima1108 Mon 01-Jan-18 19:47:02

They probably write the stuff in October and are only required if there is a major incident over the holiday that has to be hastily added.
Like Jools Holland's Hootenanny, recorded well in advance and I always think - what if a disaster befalls the main participants?
Just to be cheery.

lemongrove Mon 01-Jan-18 19:49:16

Have you? GracesGranM2

lemongrove Mon 01-Jan-18 19:50:32

I don’t know why anyone bothers to listen to Christmas messages anyway.

durhamjen Wed 03-Jan-18 11:27:22

In 2015 Corbyn did not give a Christmas message and was fiercely criticised for it in the MSM.

durhamjen Wed 03-Jan-18 13:34:21

newsthump.com/2017/12/24/theresa-may-uses-thing-that-didnt-happen-to-reflect-on-values-she-doesnt-possess-2/

OurKid1 Wed 03-Jan-18 15:05:29

Although I guess that anniebach and I are poles apart in our political views, I find myself agreeing with her again (that's twice since Christmas!). There is no need to say that May has "nobody else to read bedtime stories to*, then say that it was just a statement of fact. Saying "she doesn't have children" is a statement of fact. "Nobody else to read ..." etc comes over as mean-spirited to say the least. I fail to see the connection between the OPosters question and having children anyway.
Btw, no I don't think we have (had so many Christmas messages), but then I ignore them if I can.

durhamjen Wed 03-Jan-18 17:32:21

She could read bedtime stories to her husband, but as he is her soulmate and agrees with everything she says, it wouldn't be a story, would it?
Her speeches are bedtime stories, as they are all fantasy. She tells lies about what she is going to do to help the whole country, then does the opposite.

lemongrove Wed 03-Jan-18 17:49:39

In your view dj
And yes ourkid1 it was a very mean spirited thing to say I fully agree with you on that.

durhamjen Wed 03-Jan-18 17:51:26

Are you stalking me, lemon?

durhamjen Wed 03-Jan-18 17:52:32

Of course it's in my view, by the way.
You don't have any political views, do you?

Chewbacca Wed 03-Jan-18 18:23:44

You're absolutely right Ourkid; the comment about May having no one to read a bedtime story to was about the lowest and bitchiest comment I've seen on GN yet. I'm assuming that the author of that comment was a woman, which makes the comment even more abhorrent. Comments like that having nothing to with politics, news or debate. But they say volumes about the mentality of the poster.

lemongrove Wed 03-Jan-18 18:27:51

Yes, hardly a ‘political’ post was it durhamjen?

lemongrove Wed 03-Jan-18 18:29:34

I rarely listen to official messages ( from anybody) but may do from a PM.