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annsixty Wed 03-Jan-18 21:07:13

It is not given to me to start a threads on politics, I don't believe I have ever contributed to one either.
However I cannot let pass the comment from a conservative councillor currently skiing in the USA who wants the homeless and rough sleepers cleared from the streets of
Windsor before the wedding in May.
God forbid that visitors here to see an obscene and ostentatious picture of wealth and privelage should be confronted by the "have nots" of our society.

maryeliza54 Sun 14-Jan-18 17:49:05

And the fact he hasn’t condemned it. Her comments are not at all unbelievable sadly - just look at all the BTL comments on online news sites and read up on the abuse that Diane Abbot regularly receives. And Obama. And that dreadful comment about Michelle that I won’t dignify with repeating.

durhamjen Sun 14-Jan-18 17:49:20

Apparently Ukip's NEC is still deciding whether to keep Bolton as leader after his affair with her was announced.
They were going to decide tomorrow.
What timing!

whitewave Sun 14-Jan-18 17:55:37

Take this country back say 30 years and the sort of views being expressed by UKIP simply would never be heard on mainstream media or if it was, it made a small paragraph.

What on earth is happening to this country?

Day6 Sun 14-Jan-18 17:57:32

"Amazing isn’t it the number of right wingers on here NOT complaing about the great leader’s girlfriend’s texts. I expect they are hunting out the smelling salts after my use of ffs."

What a nasty post maryeliza 54 comparing right wingers who write here, most whom tend to be level headed, fair and kind and only slightly right of centre, with that stupid UKIP creature who is an out and out racist. I cannot remember any member of GN ever writing a racist post. It would quite rightly be removed. A nasty smear, but not totally unexpected from you.

As for 'ffs' you are very honoured to have the patronage of DJ who obviously blows with the wind as far as swearing is concerned. When I used it I was roundly condemned for using bad language. However, I am not one of her coterie so no surprises there.

Double standards or wot?

whitewave Sun 14-Jan-18 17:57:47

I think the wallies that are UKIP pose a singular threat to the U.K.

durhamjen Sun 14-Jan-18 17:58:11

Brexit, where people feel they have permission to say they dislike immigration of any sort.

maryeliza54 Sun 14-Jan-18 17:59:05

UKIP really can’t know which way is up at the moment can they? The wonderful tension between being a racist and a royalist and then pretending to care about marital fidelity.

Anniebach Sun 14-Jan-18 17:59:53

Racists have come out of the rotten woodwork whitewave, there has always been racists and sadly always will be. The internet makes it easier for them to voice their filth

whitewave Sun 14-Jan-18 18:00:11

I think that mary is right in her comment

durhamjen Sun 14-Jan-18 18:00:38

I think I have probably sworn three or four times all the time I have been on Gransnet, Day6.
It's a lot windier than that up here.

whitewave Sun 14-Jan-18 18:01:31

annie must never stop fighting their filth though.

durhamjen Sun 14-Jan-18 18:04:11

Agreed, whitewave.

maryeliza54 Sun 14-Jan-18 18:04:56

The problem you have Day with reading my posts properly. I quite clearly said what was true - no condemnation at the time of my posting but fainting at the use of ffs.if you think that means I was saying people were racist, well ffs. My point was well made - abs posts were judged acceptable and my fffs wasn’t and none on the right was engaging with the content of the texts. It’s good that some of you now are.

Day6 Sun 14-Jan-18 18:06:07

What on earth is happening to this country?

That woman is a disgrace and a racist and there are no excuses for her, but I think the political correctness movement of the last 40 years or so has merely driven feelings which have never been extinguished, underground.

Being told HOW you must think is sinister - when you examine the notion - but one would hope most reasonable people would not judge others on race or skin colour, could work that one out for themselves with a bit of thinking, and not feel forced into that corner. Deep down inside they must harbour lots of hatred. Her views are obnoxious.

Anniebach Sun 14-Jan-18 18:11:30

Never, ever whitewave

WilmaKnickersfit Sun 14-Jan-18 18:12:01

Jo Marney's texts are shown on the left. Actually I'm not sure if I do believe all ukippers agree with her. Many will, but I suspect many others are true to UKIP's declared beliefs as shown on its website -

WHAT WE BELIEVE IN

We believe in the right of the people of the UK to govern ourselves, rather than be governed by unelected bureaucrats in Brussels (and, increasingly, in London and even your local town hall).

We believe in the minimum necessary government which defends individual freedom, supports those in real need, takes as little of our money as possible and doesn’t interfere in our lives.

We believe in democracy devolved to the people, through national and local referendums on key issues, so that laws are made by the people’s will, not the fads of the political class.

This group will just want a stable and honourable leadership, something that appears to be very elusive. In the case of Henry Bolton, even if you ignore him deciding to leave his wife, I do believe you can judge a man by the company he keeps. You do not get any closer to a man than the woman he lives with and I think his position is untenable.

Day6 Sun 14-Jan-18 18:15:08

Maryeliza54 stop trying to wriggle out of your nasty comment.

You wrote - your words - "Amazing isn’t it the number of right wingers on here NOT complaing about the great leader’s girlfriend’s texts."

It is a typically disparaging remark from you insinuating that GN right wingers are silent because they think in the same vein. It is a disgusting suggestion to compare moderate right wingers to UKIP members. There is a world of difference whether you recognise it or not.

Day6 Sun 14-Jan-18 18:20:56

"In the case of Henry Bolton, even if you ignore him deciding to leave his wife, I do believe you can judge a man by the company he keeps."

I agree WilmaKnickersfit. He is definitely guilty by association and if his ex wife is grinning wildly now at his downfall, very few could blame her.

mcem Sun 14-Jan-18 18:22:36

Day6. Your post of 18.06 does go a long way to addressing that issue. It's just a pity that no-one made that point earlier.

Posters were distracted by the 'what was actually said?' discussion I think.

whitewave Sun 14-Jan-18 18:28:06

Blaming something other than the filth spewed by groups like Ukip is simply falling into their hands.

UKIP is unequivocally foul there are no other explanations.

maryeliza54 Sun 14-Jan-18 18:28:13

I was “distracted’ by ab posting false information over and over again, implying I was a liar and her criticising me for defending myself. And no right winger came on to say anything until eazy called me out for using ffs. I’m sorry that you may see this as a distraction - I think abs posts were a bloody disgrac3 - is what she posted acceptable? No of course it wasn’t but no right winger will say so.

maryeliza54 Sun 14-Jan-18 18:29:50

Ffs day you know very well the point I was making - you obviously found abs posts completely acceptable. Jolly good

durhamjen Sun 14-Jan-18 18:30:15

Patronage and coterie, eh?
I must have gone up in the world for that to have happened on Gransnet.

lemongrove Sun 14-Jan-18 18:30:30

Have only just come on here ( wondered what could still be being said about the Windsor situation.)

The remarks by Bolton’s partner were horrible, and you have said all I would have done in your posts Day6

I agree that Maryeliza’s post was in the usual vein, angry and way OTT.

WilmaKnickersfit Sun 14-Jan-18 18:31:19

mcem yes, that's why I posted the image of the texts.

I'll be honest and say I don't understand how a young British woman in this day and age comes to be thinking those thoughts. The only way I can rationalise it is to think she must have been brought up in a household with the same beliefs. I can rationalise how young men become racist, but not women. Of course, my rationalisation is just that, my rationalisation, so I would like know more.