Would anyone of sound mind refer to themselves as "a genius"

quizqueen It is nothing to do with him being white - although I do wonder if Obama would have such extreme responses if he had been white. He is either a saint or the devil to most people. It was obviously difficult with a Democrat President and a Republican President - but he seems to have made a lot of serious mistakes - the excessive use of drones, imprisoning whistleblowers, lack of prison reform etc. and the positives seem to be more along the lines of him being charismatic and able to speak intelligently which are a bit nebulous.
Trump isn't standing up to North Korea, he is poking it with a stock. South Korea is very unhappy with Trump's handling of the situation. His own companies make their goods overseas. The people his policies have caused to be expelled from the country are not undesirables but the easy targets. Don't forget his pardoning of that appalling Sheriff.
People take a black and white view of both parties as they do here about Brexit - but ignoring that his speech has changed more than can just be put down to age is not helpful if you are arguing in support of him. He rambles and loses track of his sentences. People around him have tried to deal with it by writing things down but he gets bored when he has to read things.
He will probably be tempered later this year when there are bound to be more Democratic wins and hopefully the balance in the 2 Houses will change.

That should be Democrat President and Republican Congress and Senate.

I think if Trump did have finger poised on button the military would send in men in white coats and do the explaining later.

fluttERBY123. Let's hope so. I was reading an explanation of the system. He has a card on him with codes (rather than a button) and has to take advice from the military but does not have to follow it. If the people around him have any sense they will have replaced the card and given him a toy one in its place.

Yes, i read that Congress had discussed the nuclear code issue and that the head of the armed services would not obey a call to 'press the button' if it was deemed to be ' illegal ' (whatever that means.) I think this is unprecedented. In the past the have obeyed without question.

I am torn between someone saying what they think and our politicians saying what they don’t think. So guarded. You might find some of our politicians think the same as Trump but don’t say it! At least with Trump you know what he is up too. I am not saying I support him. I don’t know enough about the US.

Jaycee 5, well said, lets hope they have done that, his childish behaviour would embrace a new toy.

I'm just glad that I'm not an american is all I'm going to say!

I don't think we are in much of a position to criticise what with having a govt with Boris Johnson, Gove et al. ?

The sorry excuse for a human has no filter whatsoever. Detest him and all he stands for.

Quizqueen- what an extraordinary statement.

It has nothing to do with black or white - although it definitely was with Tea Party ult right with Obama. Republicans hid their money and would have rather scuppered their country rather than see him succeed in anything. Including relatives of mine - the bile and racism that poured from them was appalling. We had got on so well with them before, on our many visits, and theirs to here - we are no longer in touch, sadly.

quizqueen
100% in agreement with you.
Looking back all those who see democrats as the best thing since sliced bread what U.S president has done more harm to his own country and the rest of the world by bringing about a war which millions are still suffering from ,why none other than mr democrat himself George Bush Jnr.

pamdixon
Your preference being whom and why?

SARAHELENWHITNEY I think Im right in saying George W Bush was a republican!

petra - no, they don't www.thoughtco.com/presidents-and-psych-evals-4076979

sarahellenwhitney - wow, just wow...

He is not stupid. Stupid people don't become billionaires. He gets his own way a lot and is manipulative but not stupid. Despite near hysteria when he was elected he is doing what he said he would; putting America first and American economy is on the up.

George Bush is a republican. Robert Mugabe is black and I did not feel constrained in expressing my opinions about him because of his colour. Trump is supposedly leader of the free world, so I'll feel free to say what I think about him. I think he is dangerously self-absorbed and his actions could have very far-reaching consequences for us all.

"Stupid people don't become billionaires."
Trump inherited his business fortune from his father. He has declared bankruptcy four times for his hotel and casino businesses.

If Mr Trump was black, none of you would dare say any of the things you write about him on here but, instead, he just happens to have a personality which most of you don't seem to like.
Really?
On what grounds do you make that assertion quizqueen?

I expect he speaks highly of all you lot too!!!!
Yes, he could be on Gransnet, reading all our posts

Trump is not stupid?

It is a well-known fact that geniuses do not know their left from their right (or port from starboard) mostlyharmless.

He might well be a gransnet member Jalima as he has lots of grandchildren!

Can I recommend 'The Road to Somewhere' by David Goodhart? It explains the great divide between the pro-Trump, pro-Brexit voters and the others in a thoughtful and non-partisan way.

I have found it very thought provoking: very briefly we seem to be divided, in europe , here and US, into two tribes, those who feel rooted in one place and value security and familiarity, the Somewheres, and those who
believe in globalisation, value autonomy and change, the Anywheres. The anywheres run things and the somewheres feel left behind and their concerns ignored.

If we understood each other, we might not fly off the handle with people who had different values.

He's very, very scary

Quizqueen - have you read what Trump's family and supporters in the White House are saying about his mental capacity? I don't like his policies, but even if I did, I'd be very scared indeed that this man has his finger on the nuclear button. My fear is greatly increased by his boasting that his nuclear button is larger than the one controlled by a belligerent and narcissistic leader in North Korea. It sounds like the language of the playground, but it is not play. Have you seen the carefully worded reports from a group of highly qualified psychiatrists, who are deeply concerned about the danger Trump poses to the whole world?