Corbyns Torque

trisher since you have no idea about the financial situation about posters on GN you are not in a position to comment on it.

GG
A post attacking posters about posters attacking posters.
Don't beat yourself up!

‘GN let them use the threads this way’ ?

This 'It isn't necessary to endure hardship to know what is right.' - absolutely and totally.

And you don't have to be religious either. Some things just make sense.

Strange Jura I didn’t have you down as a Corbyn supporter or a Momentum supporter, but perhaps you are.
So, what do you think of Momentum ousting people from their jobs and infiltrating every aspect of the LP?

A Marxist agenda doesn’t make sense for the UK.

No, it doesn't lemon and it hasn't made sense for the countries that have adopted it either.

Trisher, how sad you would consider only helping a sibling and nephews if you got paid.

Bringing being religous into this thread certaintly doesn't make sense.

Corbyn claims it works in Venezuela Lemon ?

Apparently, West Midlands Labour has sparked a race row by charging different prices for a conference based on skin colour. What's going on in the LP? How is this not divisive?

Oh I know GGMk2 but sometimes I can't resist it They have such a blinkered and narrow vision of life. As if the Labour Party has ever been the property of the working class
As for all those people who condemn communists, without their commitment and dedication WW2 would probably have been lost. In Spain, in Greece and many other places they gave their lives for a cause. Those who describe them as well meaning or idiots should remember that.
But still what do I know? I'm just an old leftie who believes that life could be better if rich people contributed a bit more and we had a functioning education system and NHS- From the cradle to the Grave. Yes I know it's an ideal but when I stop having ideals please will someone shoot me

I expect you will be canonised any day now trisher ?

The hard left think they are the only ones with any ideals ,
What a blinkered outlook.

Ideals? Such as charging a sibling for help and support , not an act I would be proud of.

Not wise to place oneself on a pedestal is it Lemon ?

Not paying or contributing towards the finances of someone who is not comfortably off is acceptable then? But many people are paid to care for a relative should they just do it because it is 'helping out" Even though they may be financially struggling?

KEIR HARDIE (1856-1915)

Born illegitimate and in poverty in 1856 and working in the coal mines from the age of ten. Yet Keir Hardie was to become the main founder of the Labour Party. An active trade unionist, he was sacked by the pit owners and became a trade union official, living in Cumnock with his wife, Lillee, where he was active in a local church.

Not what I would have thought was 'middle class'.

Try this as well
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beatrice_Webb
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_Webb,_1st_Baron_Passfield
Not really middle class either-more aristocracy but proof that socialism has never been the property of the working class and that you don't need to experience hardship to appreciate that there is a better way to do things (which was the argument presented!)

Or a wrong way to do them.....the Cambridge graduates who
Spied for the USSR, and the Communist cause.That went well!

This 'It isn't necessary to endure hardship to know what is right.' - absolutely and totally.
Of course, but a suspicion of Corbyn, McDonnell and Momentum does not mean one does not want what is right for all. Being moderate does not mean one does not have a sense of decency - in fact probably more of a sense of decency than what is happening with some on the far left and Momentum.

I don't hate Corbyn. I dislike what is happening and I think he is another 'useful idiot', a puppet.

There may be a better way to do things but perhaps some of us would rather there was a more moderate leader of the Labour Party so that they could get elected and do them.

I don't think anti-semitism and talk of lynching women is a better way to do things.
Sorry if some disagree.

Trisher you said Keir Hardie was middle class , pity you are unable to say you were mistaken , some can and some cannot it seems.

The university students who do not believe in freedom of speech , mustn't forget these

Those elderly, biased, blinkered people who would condemn a movement and the young people who believe in a better society simply because they dislike one individual can't forget those (unfortunately)

Do you mean they and them ?