Corbyns Torque

Bullying councillors and dictating what local authorities do is not helping the Labour Party!

As has been said, it doesn't help if people offer these accusations and the prove not to be true either.

Don't blame the media for the actions of Momentum. It's not only the leader of Haringey, it's many councillors from many Labour-controlled local councils who are angry about what has happened

Yes primrose mine included.

Ann Black was replaced by Christine Shawcroft who is a strong Corbyn supporter

Good post Eleothan. My own opinion is that Haringey council were going to demolish social housing and replace it with so called "affordable" housing in the sort of public/private fudge that is being increasingly seen as mistaken. A great number of the people in Haringey were against this, the Lib Dems were against this, the Haringey M.P.s were against this. The woman who resigned wanted to plough on regardless, beliving that she was in the right, and when her opinion was challenged resorts to claims of "bullying"

Dozens of Labour council leaders in England and Wales have signed a letter rebuking the party's ruling body over its order to halt a housing scheme in north London.
nearly 70 council bosses have accused the NEC of an "affront to democracy" and ordered it to stay out of local council decisions in future.

In their letter, seen by the Sunday Times, the leaders say: “We wish to make it clear to the NEC that it has no right or justification to interfere in or influence the legitimate actions of locally elected representatives.”

“Labour councillors around the country are deeply concerned that, in seeking to mitigate Tory austerity by proposing radical new solutions, we face calls for disciplinary action against us.

“Such calls are uncomradely, disrespectful, and wilfully ignore the difficult and challenging role we play in doing our best to protect the most vulnerable.”

www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/labour-party/news/92390/labour-council-chiefs-hit-back-national-ruling

Sorry, I can't access the full letter so cannot confirm the veracity of these statements.

I'm not sure why the leader of a Labour council, who's the chair of London Councils, representing all the London Councils and a chair of the Local Government Association would publically lie about her own political party.

Just look at the replies on her Twitter account if you think she needs to 'prove' anything.

But it seems to have been a matter that crossed party boundaries and united community activists. The man who brought the court action said “What she does not admit is that the opposition goes far wider than Momentum or indeed the Labour leader, and includes the hundreds of folk from different parties, and from none, who contributed to the legal case, and came to events. It is about basic democracy
which means that this. is not about Momentum or the Labour leadership but grassroots politics

John McDonnell will be speaking at the 'Marx 200' conference, which 'is celebrating Marx’s work' at the Marx Memorial Library about 'Marxism as a force for change today'.

www.marx-memorial-library.org/marx-200

But he's not a Marxist.

Is that Gordon Peters trisher? He calls local councils 'the local state' and is a 'Marxist ecosocialist'. He wants to "demonstrate that capital is at the root of the disturbance of the metabolic interaction between humanity and nature" which must be consoling for those living with metabolic interactions in their damp, structurally unsound flats without the capital to move elsewhere. You should read what he really thinks here.

thepensivequill.am/2018/01/from-resisting-property-developers-to.html

Time for all moderate MP’s and councillors in the LP to speak out against Momentum, because it’s going to get worse if they don’t!

McDonnell is a Marxist alright Primrose

Strange then that he finds himself in alliance with the Lib Dems in Haringey then Primrose65. but then sometimes doing the right thing for the community brings people together.

Strange that the local community didn't vote for him then trisher!
Why is he doing 'the right thing'?
Does he have an alternative to doing nothing?

Really though trisher, this is not about 'right and wrong' decisions - that's for the community to decide at the next local election. The councillors are only responsible to them, not us.
This is about the interference of the NEC, about intimidation and bullying, about hounding out people who disagree with you.

No point in voting in local elections for the candidate you want to act for you if the NEC can overrule them

" radical new solutions" is another way of saying private finance initiatives, these are becoming increasingly discredited and are, in my opinion, the wrong way to go. Removing social housing and costing more in the long term.

This is about the interference of the NEC, about intimidation and bullying, about hounding out people who disagree with you.
No point in voting in local elections for the candidate you want to act for you if the NEC can overrule them

In other words, totally undemocratic.

That's fine, vote for a councillor who has the same opinion as you. What's not fine is for the NEC to impose their dogma onto Labour councillors who have been elected and for councillors to be bullied until they stand down.

It seems Corbyn has already gone back on his pledge for the homeless in less than a week. He said he would immediately buy 8,000 homes and then he posted the same on social media. There's now been a 'clarification' - they work with housing associations and free up the homes as & when they became vacant.

twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/957621792104951808

So Labour will 'stand by' as people sleep rough on our streets.

It's just becoming more and more pathetic, in my opinion. None of the Labour front bench seem to have any credibility and Corbyn is just totally out of the loop.

This doesn't make sense, when a housing association house becomes empty it is allocated to the next on the waiting list.

And people at the top of the list are - the homeless!

Corbyn says all this stuff on TV and very quietly in the background it is all 'clarified' to explain there's no change.

There seem to be two sides to this - there usually are - and yet some are so happy to beat up the Labour Party. Now why would that be? Of course, they don't want them to get into power do they and will say anything to stop that happening even though they were not there, do not know what happened and are only listening to one side.

Nothing new there then, we just need to take it all (like the rest of this thread) with the largest pinch of salt until we actually know what did happen. 'Till then we will no doubt have it all built up with no more truth to base it on than the words of one women on the wrong side of the outcome of a decision.

I don't think it is just posters on here who are dismayed, though, I think it is many Labour politicians, councillors and voters all over the country.
Why else would Labour Council leaders feel they had to all write the letter?
Presumably they would like to see a Labour government again, as would many voters too - but perhaps not in the form it seems to be heading at the moment.

One homeless person cannot have a three bedroomed house . No idea about England but in Wales you have to live in the area to be considered

GG surely the point here is that it’s members of the Labour Party - indeed their own politicians- who are trying to “beat up” the Labour Party. As you say “Now why would that be?

As I've already stated Corbyn failed to get into university because his qualifications were not high enough then went to a polytechnic and failed to complete the course. Is this the man that you really want as the political head of our country. He will do as he is told by the extreme left of his party as they of course are the ones that kept him leader of the Labour Party.