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So - what is Farage up to now ?!?

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jura2 Sun 21-Jan-18 17:12:31

any thoughts?

MaizieD Wed 07-Feb-18 10:22:14

Gabriella is a ukipper. They are not known for understanding the concept of free speech.

It's a fascist characteristic, I understand, dj...
As is also this dislike of perceived foreigners...

MaizieD Wed 07-Feb-18 10:27:48

Enemies of the People (our independent judiciary)
Crush the saboteurs (MPs legitimately voting in Parliament for what they believe to be in the best interests of the country)
Civil servants accused, (outrageously) of fiddling figures because they oppose Brexit (dear, sweet psuedo-toff JRM only last week)

So, those of you who don't think these actions are fascist, could you please explain what makes them reasonable and consistent with democracy?

(Real toffs, Jalima, come from the aristocracy; JRM is only 'landed gentry' in origin...)

lemongrove Wed 07-Feb-18 10:28:11

Is everybody to be labelled a fascist now?
Anybody who votes for UKIP or Conservatives? Apparently
Rees Mogg is one as well.Don’t let this get silly.

ninny Wed 07-Feb-18 10:28:31

MaizieD I saw your post before you swiftly asked for it to be removed, pot black comes to mind.

MaizieD Wed 07-Feb-18 10:33:38

Can we discuss my point, please?

What makes people think that the examples I gave are not fascist or fascist in tendency?

Jalima1108 Wed 07-Feb-18 10:34:16

(Real toffs, Jalima, come from the aristocracy; JRM is only 'landed gentry' in origin...)
Sounds quite toffish to me.

Jalima1108 Wed 07-Feb-18 10:35:56

I thought you mean that we are now living in a fascist state, which is why I made a tongue-in-cheek remark in response.

MaizieD Wed 07-Feb-18 10:36:55

Naah...worthy, but not toffish... grin

But disturbingly fascist....wink

eazybee Wed 07-Feb-18 10:38:08

I think my parents (born 1905, 1909, northern working -class) would be utterly astounded at the inaccurate diatribes being presented, very incoherently, by Maizie D.

maryeliza54 Wed 07-Feb-18 10:38:23

I agree with you Maizie - my understanding is that you are talking about fascist actions/behaviour which is not the same as saying someone is a fascist or that the country is fascist. Ninny at least Maizie saw the error of her ways, whereas GG just carried on regardless until reported

Jalima1108 Wed 07-Feb-18 10:38:54

My criterion for deciding is whether one had a nanny or whether one was the nanny.
Of course, that wouldn't apply these days as so many working mothers employ nannies.

MaizieD Wed 07-Feb-18 10:45:05

I thought you mean that we are now living in a fascist state,

No, I don't think we are, yet, but there are indications that we could be if we're not careful.

And we could be with the consent 'of the people' if the real bile and hatred for anyone with opposing views that I see from time to time on social media (not particularly on here, though, we're pussycats) become a majority trend. One of the key facets of fascism is the silencing of opposition.

It's been simmering away there in the background for as long as I can remember but seems much more prominent now; especially as practised by people in public life who really ought to know better...

maryeliza54 Wed 07-Feb-18 10:45:43

How would your parents have felt about GG’s inaccurate personal attacking diatribes eazy then? Not that I’m sure why your post brought your parents into it.

MaizieD Wed 07-Feb-18 10:48:14

Sorry, eazybee ?

What 'inaccurate diatribes'? Can you quote some for me please?

GabriellaG Wed 07-Feb-18 10:48:40

???
Too silly for words.
Grannies thinking that reporting someone makes their own 'candle shine brighter', to quote a phrase another GNer used in another thread.
It makes no difference to me or my views.

maryeliza54 Wed 07-Feb-18 10:54:50

Of course nothing will make any difference to your views GG and you are fully at liberty to express your views on here within the guidelines which includes not making personal attacks which you did.Didn’t HQ explain that to you when they emailed you about your posts being deleted?

jura2 Wed 07-Feb-18 11:02:53

Of course, not everyone Lemongrove, but if they fit the official description kindly posted by Maisie yesterday- then yes.

MaizieD Wed 07-Feb-18 11:04:52

How do you get a serious discussion going on Gnet?

If I said Corbyn was fascist would everyone pile in?

whitewave Wed 07-Feb-18 11:52:07

This is just the same as the last time we were discussing Farage and cohorts.

The whole thread gets pounced on by posters who never or rarely post on anything else. Their rhetoric is always aggressive in tone with underlying racist or xenophobic innuendo. Other posters often pile in who support what they see as a right winger without seemingly to understand the implication of what is being posted by these infrequent posters.

By its nature political threads frequently become extremely combatitive, but threads like this often reach extraordinary unpleasant levels.

Something even Maybot has recently called out.

maryeliza54 Wed 07-Feb-18 12:09:47

Spot on WW And then with no apparent irony on another political thread,the right wingers complain that the left wing posters put people off posting because they are so nasty and bullying. How come no right wing poster called out GG for her posts that were deleted?

lemongrove Wed 07-Feb-18 15:54:54

Have no idea what was deleted on here, but do remember that if you post aggressive things about ‘ukippers’ you may expect to get feisty answers back. Also remember that UKIP
Is a legitimate political party and not a banned organisation.
Certainly not my party of choice but so what?

whitewave Wed 07-Feb-18 15:59:40

I see the Fail has called Soubry a “traitor”

Not acceptable language and in line with its pre-war tone.

Back to type.

Result? Soubry has a death threat.

durhamjen Wed 07-Feb-18 16:03:31

Not for much longer. Aaron Banks has asked them to join the conservative party and push for a hard Brexit.
He was the one who bankrolled Ukip.
Farage can't do that any more, as he has lost half his MEP's pay for spending EU money on the party. Breaking the law, in other words.

jura2 Wed 07-Feb-18 16:47:04

Feisty is one thing lemongrove- bein told it is 'none of your business and to 'shut up'' is, well, another.

maryeliza54 Wed 07-Feb-18 17:37:27

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