Corbyn and Momentum

durhamjen

Then we have both expressed our opinion.

Anniebach, thank you for the explanation of your comment re Robin Cook. I must admit I haven't heard that before but I do try my best not to read wild conspiracy theories

POGS

Does anybody know where McDonnell is hiding these days?
Haven’t heard or seen him on tv and he never seems to be sitting on the shadow front bench at PMQ’s.

I thought you knew everything about the Labour Party and its leaders, lemon.

A typical durhamjen remark

Now what's going on?

this weekend centrist candidates have swept to victory in internal elections at both Labour Students and West Midlands conferences

3 members thought of as centrists were elected as full time Labour Students officers and the same wing of the party won 11 of 13 elections at the West Midlands conference .

The results disappointed activists on the left .

Does anybody know where McDonnell is hiding these days?

Ah the logical fallacy so beloved by some of our fellow members. He was interviewed on one of the politics programmes yesterday Lemongrove.

Surely that's called democracy in action Annie. I think someone would only have a problem with it if they had convinced themselves of something different.

I can’t be glued to the radio or tv all day just in case he pops up!
He never seems to be sitting on the front bench for PMQ’s.
I wondered if Corbyn wanted him muffled for a while.

I don't think anyone suggested you should really Lemongrove so not sure why you would say that. The way you put it inferred that is you didn't see him he was hiding. People use a lot of logical fallacies when they are arguing. Politicians use them a lot so you are in good company.

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No!!! is if Sorry!

Now what's going on? (15.36)

To me, Annie, you sound just a little bit disappointed

Yes, strange, isn't it?
I thought that would be what Annie wanted. No pleasing some people.

GGM2 not every comment is meant to be taken literally you know

Where McDonnell is concerned I think there may well be some good explanation why the public don’t see him as much as previously, namely that he is more unpopular than the affable (seeming) Corbyn.

Perhaps it’s the start of a centrist fightback Annie it has to start somewhere after all.

Perhaps 'the centre' has never gone away, lemon. Perhaps all the hysteria about a takeover by Momentum has been a tad overdone...

McDonnell is going to be seen tonight, lemon, outside parliament taking part in a demo about wage freezes for the workers.
That's in case you really are missing seeing your hero.

Undoutedly, the centre has never gone away, likewise the left wing and right wing of the body politic has never gone away. However, in the foregoing you witness the healthy state of British democracy and long may be that the case.

In regard to the Student elections, if those elections were held at the referred to conferences, it is highly probable that the weather at the weekend may have influenced the vote by way of who was able to get to the venues.?

Oh, if only that was true MaizieD

My hero dj? ?

I can only hope lemon ?

... not every comment is meant to be taken literally you know.

Why not Lemongrove. A new rule?

Where McDonnell is concerned I think there may well be some good explanation why the public don’t see him as much as previously, namely that he is more unpopular than the affable (seeming) Corbyn.

Firstly, who says we don't see much of McDonnell? You. But then you, as you have posted, don't read links or it appears watch political programmes. Those who are interested may or may not see more of him but you are not "we".

Additionally, you base this opinion on an ad hominin point "... he is more unpopular than the affable (seeming) Corbyn"., Ad hominems often signal the point at which a civil disagreement has descended into a “fight". This isn't a fight Lemongrove; it's a discussion, a debate.

If you would like to discuss how often different politicians appear, where they can be seen, on behalf of their party, please tell me how much you or "we" see of the Chancellor of the Exchequer who is actually a minister of government.

The centre doesn't ever go away but the perception of where it is changes. Since Thatcher the perception of the centre has been dragged to the right. It now appears to being dragged back leftwards towards what appeared to be a consensus of "centre" for decades after the war.