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GracesGranMK2 Thu 08-Mar-18 09:20:23

Simple title so should be easy to update everyone with any bits of knowledge we gain.

Day6 Sat 10-Mar-18 21:03:50

"Even the gutter press is not accusing the Labour Party of being involved in anti-Semitic groups."

Well you have just relegated the Guardian to 'gutter press' GracesGran. Guardian journalists are dismayed and disgusted at the anti-semetic nature of the Labour Party.

Deny it all you like. You tend to do that. You wear blinkers. I imagine you seething and hissing at your adversaries - your blood pressure must be through the roof in trying to free the Labour Party from the hook. (Mine is fine btw. Have it checked regularly.)

durhamjen Sat 10-Mar-18 21:07:13

What does anti-semetic mean?

Fennel Sat 10-Mar-18 21:16:46

"Guardian journalists are dismayed and disgusted at the anti-semetic nature of the Labour Party."
Do you mean that the LP has official policies aimed against Jews?
Or that there are individuals in the LP who don't like Jews?
There's a difference.
Same applies to the tories.

durhamjen Sat 10-Mar-18 21:18:56

www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/mar/08/labour-suspends-party-members-in-antisemitic-facebook-group

2 liberals, too. Why no outcry against them?
Have you actually read the whole of this article, as you seem to know everything about the Guardian?

durhamjen Sat 10-Mar-18 21:23:55

That was to Day6 by the way, in case of doubt, Fennel.

Day6 Sat 10-Mar-18 21:25:39

Primrose
"you'll see quite clearly that Corbyn is not looking directly at the men in combat gear, pointing rifles and shooting into the air. He's looking ahead.

This means he obviously didn't see them.

When they fired the guns, because he had a bad cold that day that dulled his hearing, he simply assumed that some fireworks were being let off."

grin

Of course he saw nothing Primrose. We are learning that's the way Corbyn rolls. He is oblivious to all the highly controversial messes he becomes embroiled in. grin

Poor man. I am glad he has people here who will defend his short-sightedness. They may have myopia too.

Day6 Sat 10-Mar-18 21:34:38

Annie - "that Corbyn did the same whilst colleagues and staff in Westminster we're grieving shows a man with no feelings for the emotions of others or respect for people's grief does trouble me."

It troubled many Annie. That was a callous act. Corbyn was either completely gormless and unthinking, or intended to try and hurt the Conservatives even more - even though the nation was shocked and MPs had been maimed and killed by an act of terrorism.

He says 'he cares' about people yet this was an act of gross insensitivity.

durhamjen Sat 10-Mar-18 21:43:39

Day6, you ought to read more than the posts you agree with, and get your eyes tested, too.
It wasn't Corbyn in the photo.

GracesGranMK2 Sat 10-Mar-18 21:58:08

Very interesting Richard Murphy post Jen and very interesting comments too. The speech highlighted in one of the comments is what we all know but how frightening to hear someone putting it into words like that.

Anniebach Sat 10-Mar-18 21:59:36

Day6, it was that lack of any compassion or understanding which upset me so much

Day6 Sat 10-Mar-18 22:03:30

"It wasn't Corbyn in the photo."

Has he had himself Photoshopped out DJ? grin

His website has undergone a good cleansing too. hmm

Anniebach Sat 10-Mar-18 22:07:51

Because some claim he wasn't in the photograph then this air brushes out the fact he was there ?

durhamjen Sat 10-Mar-18 22:13:23

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/labours-lead-over-conservatives-surges-12165233

Time for May to call an election. It will solve all her problems with Brexit.

Primrose65 Sat 10-Mar-18 22:15:44

Poor man. I am glad he has people here who will defend his short-sightedness

I agree Day6. I'd actually feel rather sorry for him, if I believed all his excuses.

He manages to have a cuppa with a nice guy from the embassy and he doesn't realise he's a spy
He was busy trying to negotiate peace in NI but didn't realise he's just been dealing with a bunch of terrorists
Now, in trying to help the Palestinians, he's found out that his Facebook friends were a bunch of anti-semites posting stuff from the KKK.

I'm waiting for the news to break that he's inadvertently become a non-executive director for KFC and received £millions that he didn't notice in his bank account while he was just trying to promote vegetarianism at his local farmers market, supporting the jam makers of North London.

And people think he could negotiate Brexit.

durhamjen Sat 10-Mar-18 22:16:02

There is no proof he was at the funeral, either.

www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-corbyn-on-northern-ireland

Anniebach Sat 10-Mar-18 22:29:22

When questioned by a select committee on his calling Hamas his friends he couldn't lie so wriggled out of it with - with hindsight I was wrong !

GracesGranMK2 Sat 10-Mar-18 22:36:55

Jen they don't want to know the truth and will not listen. They will just repeat the lies and even if they stop posting them they will still believe them.

durhamjen Sat 10-Mar-18 22:50:07

Isn't that what you say, Annie?
I am sure you used to tell people what an honest man Corbyn was. Honest and caring, I seem to recall.
You are allowed to think that in hindsight you were wrong, but not Corbyn?

maryeliza54 Sat 10-Mar-18 23:43:29

ab your posts do this all the time - I did not say that JC’s behaviour is excused because of MT’s behaviour -as ever, your posts just make up what others say to suit what you want to believe. But MTs behaviour towards Pinochet was absolutely unacceptable - you do know about Chile do you?

Anniebach Sun 11-Mar-18 03:45:46

I didn't know Corbyn was a hypocrite . Are we to believe he didn't know Hamas were terrorists untill someone told him .

Comparing my mistake in not knowing he was a hypocrite to him not knowing Hamas were terrorists ? Big mistake for someone who wants to be P.M.

Primrose65 Sun 11-Mar-18 10:21:30

I think the LP has changed significantly too. Now it seems to support Corbyn's Labour you need to be happy to alienate some women, Jews and immigrants. The numbers in 'the few' seem to grow every day.
It's not how I imagined it would be.

Anniebach Sun 11-Mar-18 10:29:23

It certaintly isn't what I hoped it would be.

Grandad1943 Sun 11-Mar-18 10:30:54

Jeremy Corbyn also met and talked to leaders and others in the Soviet Block in the 1980s and early 90s. Perhaps if more politicians from the West had carried out the same rather than wallowing in the mess that became Russia as it collapsed politically and economically we would not have the problem we have with Russia now.

Likewise with Hamas, the only way that the problems of the Middle East will be solved will be by persons talking to each other no matter who they are. That's how peace will be brought forward and lives will be saved.

The above was in the end how peace was gained in Northern Ireland and in that Jeremy Corbyn demonstrated himself to be a very forward thinking politician.

Anniebach Sun 11-Mar-18 10:33:33

Corbyn supported the IRA, that is not how peace was gained in N.Ireland

durhamjen Sun 11-Mar-18 10:37:02

Well said, Grandad.
He'd make a much better foreign secretary than Boris is doing.

Boris hasn't managed to get Nazanin Radcliffe out of prison, even though the prison governor said he would free her months ago.

www.theguardian.com/news/2018/mar/10/zaghari-ratcliffe-boris-johnson-british-iranian-iran-jail

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