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Corbyn's Magnetism

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Primrose65 Mon 19-Mar-18 09:53:54

A thread for all Corbyn lovers & haters

whitewave Mon 26-Mar-18 10:49:58

So annie do you have concrete evidence of widespread anti-semitism. Or indeed any evidence?

What has all your years if LP membership taught you?
Mine is that members are caring fighters for social justice.

GracesGranMK2 Mon 26-Mar-18 10:51:05

If you explain how you have got to that point Annie, someone may be able to give you and answer. As it stands it doesn't appear to be logical.

trisher Mon 26-Mar-18 10:54:12

If it is there Annie the only way to deal with it is to "out" the people who are anti-semitic. Nothing else will work. So let's not argue about who said what, let's start getting rid of the anti-semites. Let's make the party you love as clean and open as possible.

whitewave Mon 26-Mar-18 10:54:44

Jewish Voice

“To the youngsters who want to know what the smears against Jeremy Corbyn are really about, we recommend you read Chomsky’s “MANUFACTURING CONSENT”

Once you understand Manufacturing Consent you will understand what the media is all about.”

durhamjen Mon 26-Mar-18 10:57:04

I find it very strange that people are trying to use antisemitism against Corbyn using a response he made in 2012, when the idea of being labour leader had probably not even crossed his mind. He'd never been anything other than a backbencher, and probably expected to retire as a backbencher.

People who do not like Corbyn's ideals are using this as a reason to show him as being untruthful and not fit to be a leader.

whitewave Mon 26-Mar-18 10:59:31

If I truly believed that the LP is as bad as being said, I would resign immediately.

The question therefore annie are you still a member?

whitewave Mon 26-Mar-18 11:00:53

Someone who knows when they are being manipulated

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GracesGranMK2 Mon 26-Mar-18 11:05:22

It is extremely odd that on a day there is talk from the Conservatives about the NHS this - a comment about a mural that was taken down six years ago and a comment made at the same time is heading the news, particularly on the BBC. I don't know about conspiracy theories but my view of the Beeb has gone down several notches.

The Chomsky book sounds interesting whitewave.

whitewave Mon 26-Mar-18 11:07:21

Corbyn took part in the Cable Street remembrance march in 2016. He spoke movingly about how his mum has taken part in the original march and how important it is to continue the fight against hate in all its forms.
How many Tories marched and spoke at that meeting?

durhamjen Mon 26-Mar-18 11:07:25

Brilliant, whitewave. More needed.

How can Corbyn be responsible for allowing antisemitism to have been built up since 2012 when he wasn't in charge of the Labour Party?

Apparently Blair is giving a speech in parliament today.
Coincidence?

whitewave Mon 26-Mar-18 11:09:43

The BBC chose to lead with Corbyn.

53 men women and children died in a shopping mall yesterday. Not a single mention by the BBC.

It has become the mouthpiece of the government.

whitewave Mon 26-Mar-18 11:15:47

Jewish Voice

The number of insults we get from Tory supporters, mostly non-Jews for backing Labour, shows how toxic this debate is getting. Non-Jews talking down to Jews on the subject of anti-semitism as if our voice does not matter, and how dare we speak out.

A new low for the Tory party”

whitewave Mon 26-Mar-18 11:52:19

Chris Mullen

“ sorry to see some Jewish leaders ganging up on Corbyn. Far less anti-semitism in the Labour Party than in other parts of society and political parties.
I suspect it is more to do with criticism of Israel than anti-semitism”

durhamjen Mon 26-Mar-18 12:01:17

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Going to be interesting this afternoon.
I wonder which group will have the most people turn up.

whitewave Mon 26-Mar-18 12:25:42

Bet the BBC don’t report it.

whitewave Mon 26-Mar-18 12:29:13

Tom Pride a Jew whose family were murdered by the Nazis.

“How dare you accuse me of anti-semifism for supporting Jeremy Corbyn”

Pride goes on to outline the Tory supporters/members in the Board of Deputies of British Jews. And how they have supported the DUP, whom they describe as exceptionally warm and friendly.

Primrose65 Mon 26-Mar-18 12:46:23

I bet the BBC do report it. I'm sure people will be enlightened when they see a pro-Corbyn group holding an 'emergency rally', shouting down people protesting against antisemitism. When they report it you can call it a 'smear'.

mostlyharmless Mon 26-Mar-18 12:51:14

Totally agree with that quote above from Chris Mullen. The Labour Party is a very tolerant, open minded party made up of people who support the under-privileged and minority groups.
If you want to look for racism of all types then investigate the Tory party.

whitewave Mon 26-Mar-18 13:10:52

Tom Prise tweeted

“Dear Jonathon Arkush, I am curious if it is official policy of the Board of Deputies of British Jews it is official policy to turn a blind eye to political parties with Nazi saluting members?
Or are you just making an exception for the Conservatory party.

Regards Tom”

whitewave Mon 26-Mar-18 13:13:15

Tom Pride

Apparently giving a Nazi party, with Nazi uniforms and Nazi salutes is not according to the Tory party anti-Semitic

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whitewave Mon 26-Mar-18 13:14:15

Tory Nazi salute

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whitewave Mon 26-Mar-18 13:18:59

Reasons why the Tories hate Corbyn

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whitewave Mon 26-Mar-18 13:25:19

All coming true

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lemongrove Mon 26-Mar-18 13:27:21

Primrose oh the outrage on here and the denials that there is no problem within the LPgrin even though Corbyn has just admitted that there is !
I think it may have been an eye opener for readers on GN to see all the far left huffing and puffing.
Try reading the Jewish Chronicle.
Watch the Daily Politics.
Or......carry on with the heads firmly in the sand.

GracesGranMK2 Mon 26-Mar-18 13:31:01

This is purely personal but I am so disappointed in the BBC.

On DP they showed what they were told viewers was what JC would have seen on the FB page. On a huge screen they just showed just the table and the people seated round it. So you crop the picture and show it on a large screen and tell the world that was what he saw on FB. I don't think so. The BBC is rapidly becoming the voice of the right-wing, Israeli government supporting, voice of the Board of Deputies of British Jews.

Thank heavens for people like the Jewish lady who was prepared to go there and stand up to them.

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